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Old 12-24-2009, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Excaliber View Post
Interesting that the New York Times poll BACKED UP the Robert Woods poll. I don't know, maybe the Times are hard left leaning as well? There is no question you could find other polls with the same results as the Times and the Robert poll.

You simply can't deny that MOST Americans, by far, support some kind of Health Care reform. Unless your swimming in the De-Nile "ocean".

Now Ron makes a valid point:


Well maybe, maybe not, but at least we are doing "something". Another Times poll asked the question (paraphrased here): "Who is better suited to develop Health Care Reform. Republicans or Democrats?" Over whelming response was Democrats. In fact one of FOUR Republicans answered Democrats! You guys like Polls? On the internet you can find plenty of them to support your position, yea or nea.

And yes, the Government can "force" you to buy insurance under the Commerce clause. Now here's the kicker to that clause. IF you can't afford it there are provisions to address that. So it's not a total "force" aspect. It will survive a legal challenge. Don't pay your taxes? Go to jail. CAN'T pay your taxes? The Gov will work something out.
Are you claiming that you don't know that the New York Times is a branch office of Obum's White House.

And I too have said some fixes are needed, FIXES, not demolition and rebuilding without any REAL knowledge of how to or what it will cost.
Obama and the Democrats all lied when they tried to portray our health care TREATMENT as substandard.
Then they all lied when the tried to make Doctors and Hospitals the villians, saying they were cheating us.
Then they lied about 45, 46, or 47 million having NO ACCESS to health care.
Then they all lied about outrageous policies and procedures and profits of insurance companies, All of which the politicians APPROVED and regulate. But insurance companies stuck as an appropriate villain, helped by completely biased unquestioning media like the NYT and NBC, CBS, ABC, And CNN.
So now they have passed a Senate health INSURANCE bill, NOT HEALTH CARE, claiming all the problems not solved by 100 years of very close insurance regulation , will be solved by even more regulation by the same politicians. I am embarrassed by the national stupidity.
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