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Old 02-25-2012, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by joyridin' View Post
I'm not sure how accurate this is, but I have read this elsewhere.

Myth 1: Oil refineries are not being built in the U.S. because environmental regulations, particularly the Clean Air Act, are so bureaucratic and burdensome that refiners cannot get permits.

Fact: Environmental regulations are not preventing new refineries from being built in the U.S. From 1975 to 2000, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) received only one permit request for a new refinery. And in March, EPA approved Arizona Clean Fuels’ application for an air permit for a proposed refinery in Arizona. In addition, oil companies are regularly applying for – and receiving – permits to modify and expand their existing refineries.[1]

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Not very accurate according to my buddy at EXXON/MOBIL....yes they do modify and expand the refinery when new technology comes along to make them more efficient, but it takes years of waiting on the permits and paperwork from the EPA and feds before they can do anything and when they do get it, they must work within their existing land boundry lines!!!! they can't expand outside their present site!!!!!!!!

You want to hear some more of our great beuracracy at work??????
10 years or maybe a little more, Shell Oil was going to build an offshore platform, at the time it would be the largest in size and production capability and drill the deepest at that time...these rigs are built in "modules/sections" then assembled on the gulf coast at a dock or shipyard, then towed out to sea to go to work....there was only one facility in Louisiana that had the capabilityto assemble the rig,but the outlet to the gulf was only 40 feet deep and they needed a minimum of 45 feet....no big deal,dredge 2 miles of canal five more feet.......
They began the process with the Corpof Engineers and Coast Guard to get the proper permits,after they spent mucho $$$ and jumped thru all the hoops,they were told the studies would take 2 to 4 years to complete and to call back then!!!!!!!!!
Well, they found a port with the capability and water depth to do the job in South America.....They shipped all the USA made components down there along with the Shell Oil workers to over see the operations and test everything....They had the rig assembled and out to sea on location drilling for oil and gas in less than ONE year.......Thanks to South America..... my cousin was one of the engineers for Shell that was down there the whole time.......
And people wonder why jobs are being lost and sent overseas?????????????

David
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