[wrogers55]

Old stiff and new lifters are empty of all or and cleaning liquid. I even took one each apart to look and learn. The new one comes apart easily and looks normal. The old stiff one was impossible (no real effort) to pull the internal guts out or knock them out by banging it upside down on the bench after removing the pushrod cup. Since it will move slightly, it must have some kind of spring in there but I can't get at it. All I can see is a hollow insert after the "top" is removed. I guess it doesn't matter at this stage since I think the best thing to do is toss them anyway.

So, I'm just going back with the new lifters. Several of the old ones have circular score marks on the rollers, not fingernail deep, just marked up a bit.

The valve springs are listed as "green stripe" shipped by AFR already installed on the 205s, according to AFR, Manley springs No. 221425. One of the triple springs is flat wound, so I suspect it may just be a damper. The springs could have been messed with by the builder. I have no way to measure the pressure and don't want to take it down any farther. It was running great, just a few marks on the rollers and a lobe that was starting to show some minor wear pattern on the nose and coloration. Whole thing might not have been necessary, or maybe I saved an even bigger headache later.

Now to see if I can get it back in and all the stuff pointing in the right direction.

Really appreciate the comments. Great group to help.