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Originally Posted by computerworks
And, in the context of what the layman is asking, you are lying to him.
You will never understand that.
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Gee Ron, you again conveniently left off the balance of what I tell people from your "quote" and take only the part of what I've said that suits your needs and then accuse me of lying to people nor am I misleading them. Candidly, your statement bull@$#%.
Its your organization that provided the definitions. Those are what I go with. We are allowed to rely on those definitions aren't we? I guess if you don't like the definitions then talk to your organization but don't call me a liar. In fact, you would have me tell the laymen something inaccurate by telling them "no, its not real it's a replica" when the Registry clearly defines it as otherwise.
Shouldn't the laymen ('civilians, right?) be entitled to learn about these cars or should my answers and other Continuation owners answers just go on to to be self deprecating so perpetuate their ignorance on the subject? Isn't that part of what SAAC's mission is to educate and preserve? Why, SAAC even publishes and sells the World Registry to the public does it not? It even sells memberships and invites memberships from Cobra owners and non owners and "civilians" alike. Does it not? The World Registry sets the standards does it not? Gee, the Registry itself seems to say so. Is SAAC lying?
Lets take a further look at what your clubs World Registry states. Page 6 under "Introduction:
[/u] "This book is more than just an attempt to keep track of the individual history, current whereabouts and last known owner of each and every car. As a totality [u] [i]T DEF[i]NES WHAT CO[b]RAS AND FORD GTs ARE AND SPEC[i]CALLY [i]DENT[i]F[i]ES WH[i]CH ONES F[i]T THAT DEF[i]N[i]T[i]ON. [i]N TH[i]S SENSE, THE REG[i]STRY SERVES TO PROTECT THE LEGACY THAT WAS CREATED [b]Y THESE CARS [b]Y PROV[i]D[i]NG SPEC[i]F[i]CS WHC[i]H CAN [b]E [u]SED AS A YARDST[i]CK AGA[i]NST WH[i]CH ANY CARS P[u]RPORT[i]NG TO [b]E GEN[u][i]NE CAN [b]E MEAS[u]RED...
I have two cars that are "registered" in the registry and had to be submitted through a registrar for that car. Had to fill out paper work and everything. Even had a deadline to submit. You mean you guys registered non genuine fake Cobras and are keeping track of those too?
At page 27 the World Registry clearly states:
THE SECOND WHY THE N[u]M[b]ER OF FAKE CO[b]RAS HAS [b]EEN GREATLY RED[u]CED [i]S THAT SHEL[b]Y [i]S NOW OFFER[i]NG A NEW GENERAT[i]ON OF CO[b]RA ROADSTERS. NO ONE [i]S SER[i]O[u]SLY ATTEMPT[i]NG TO CONV[i]NCE ANYONE THAT THESE CARS ARE "OR[i]G[i]NAL (THAT [i]NCL[u]DES ME TOO)...THAT [i]S TO SAY THEY ARE THE SAME CARS [b][u][i]LT AND SOLD [b]ETWEEN 1962 AND 1968. [b][u]T THEY ARE VERY CLOSE MECHAN[i]CALLY AND COSMET[i]CALLY, AND THEY ARE [b][u][i]L[i]T [b]Y CARROLL SHEL[b]Y. SO WH[i]LE NOT "OR[i]G[i]NAL" THEY ARE A[u]THENT
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The definitions clearly define CSX4000 series cars as current production Cobras built by Shelby. It's right there in black and white. I can even look up the picture of my authentic Cobra in the registry and read about it. My Ford GT too? By the way are they fakes or replicas of the original GT? Why are they in there????
So you see I am not lying when I answer the "is it real" or "is it original" question as I said I answer. It seems, however, that many here for their own self interested reasons would like me and other Continuation owners to misstate the current facts and truth and continue to perpetuate the confusion and ignorance of those unfortunate civilians or perhaps those that don't like my answer simply can't comprehend what the Registry so clearly says. It's not me that doesn't get it.
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Bill: Yes I said what I wrote obviously, however, do me a favor and yourself a favor try using quotes in context if you are going to use them. Having it pointed out that you used a statement out of context or without full explanation makes you look a little silly.
ERAChas: Thanks for your comments. Appreciate it.
Had I not been accused of "lying" to "lay" people on this subject I likely would not have even bothered to continue to waste my breath here on this issue. Really. However, my dander was raised by the accusation but now have taken a deep breath and remembered, hey it's Club Cobra, nothing new. Again, even the guys on the GT Forum "got it".
Your organization and a world recognized authority says my Cobra is an authentic Cobra and I am not allowed to say it is in the manner I answer the question or I am lying????? What a crock. LOL
All I'll say in closing to those still refusing to recognize the Continuation series as a authentic Cobra read the World Registry and weep.