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Old 04-09-2002, 07:31 AM
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Well….For you folks just tuning in I would like to politely ask you to read my previous comments on this topic.

Yes I looked at other products, Factory fives were not being build when I purchased my kit, nor were Super performance being sold in North America. The kits that were being sold were more complete than I wonted. I wonted to build, fabricate and design many of the parts to fit my needs and wants. I wonted to personalize the build to my likes. John’s basic frame and body was local, not bad and it also solved a number of importation problems that could have come up due to Canada Customs dislike of kit cars and kits being imported into Canada. John was the lesser of a number of evils.

Actually what I said was “John is tough to do business with and EVERY car I have seen him build is CRAP!” Then I stated in the following posting “John not providing customer service, dubious quality parts supplied to customers and the true quality of Johnnex built turnkey cars.” If you are going to quote me please do so correctly. I used the term Build and Turnkey to represent completed cars. I used the term Turnkey to create clarity to my comments as a courtesy to the reader. I felt this made my position clearer and should in not be interpreted as a change of position. For those who may have not understood the term “build” or “built” look it up in a dictionary. To assembly something from parts, you know build.

Johnex’s current frame looks significantly different from what he had been selling. The CSC built frame was a major selling point for me as well. Now I wouldn’t purchase one of his current frames. It looks cheap, made for much lighter gauge material and not nearly as robust in appearance as his previous frame.

As far as frame to body fit goes. Every car I have seen is not supported properly. John supplies his bodies riveted along the rocker panel. There is no attachment point ahead of the firewall, nor rear of the interior. The built in mounts on the frame and body DO NOT make contact with one and other, there is usually about a ½ to ¾ inch gap. John relies on the trunk and rear bumper to support the rear of the body. On the front Johnex uses the front opening fiberglass sidepieces, which are usually just riveted in, to support body ahead of the firewall. John also uses to some extent the fiberglass wheel well closures to support the body, these are very poor and tend to offer little or no support. Although John has a lower rad cradle that ties into the frame, it is riveted. This supports the rad, the upper rad support again is riveted to the fiberglass body, but since in is not rigidly attached to the rad and the rad to the lower mount this would not offer any support the body. It also make is tough as hell to get out the rad should work need to be done. You must drill out the rivets and then try to deal with the remounting problems. (I have had first hand experence with that) This is not what I would call an “excellent fit” and Not what I would call well supported.

Don’t presume that I didn’t research the market talk to other customers or know what I was in for with John.

Gomer, everyone has an attitude, look at your own e-mail, lots of attitude. If you paid $1000 for parts that did not fit your car, were poor quality and you had returned to the supplier only to be ignored and not have your $$$ returned, some how I think you would have an attitude as well.

Doc

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