[DrDuc]

I'm ok with most places that I can get to in 20-40 minutes from the center of town. The 4:30pm start time is always a stretch if I have late patients. The pavilions is just about the same distance away as 5nD was, just East instead of West. 5nD at 16th St and Colter is nice as is Twin Peaks at 20th St and Camelback. Both have outdoor seating and nice hostesses.