[Danr55]

Mike, I had an issue with a water pump on my car. Then I remember that the gasket had a plasticized backing on it that needed to come off. After the third gasket failed, I removed the backing and guess what? It worked.

As to the run situation.. perhaps what you are seeing is similarity? When I decline a run, it's usually because of heat or cold. I am old. I am more affected by these two elements than I was 10 years ago when I started hanging with this crew of misfits and Type A bandits. Sometimes I have other things planned, but.. It's like Karls idea of running to Payson. I love going to Payson airport for breakfast. Matter of fact, I started the original run up the hill for breakfast when Canyon View Cafe was still open. Right now, 38 degrees is just too cold for an old man in an open car. As it turned out, I'm working today so all of the things I was doing today, I'm doing tomorrow. I couldn't go anyway. Back to the point. I don't believe that anyone "follows" me. I think that sometimes I just speak up and say what everyone else is thinking....cept when a case of hang down gets me.. OUCH! In any event, you guys do what Mikie and I used to do. Plan and event, tell everyone about it, then do it. If no one shows up, post pictures and tell the story. Bob brought it up but the first Coronado Trail Run is not exactly what I would call a huge party. The second year we had cars from Phoenix, Tucson, and even from the Pantera club join us. So strike out on your own. Don't wait for anyone to help you enjoy life. Just do it or before you can blink, you'll be old and wondering where your life went and what you did with it.