[Karl Bebout]

Ah yes, the old days...

Originally, the run up Mt Lemmon was pretty much just a quickly planned run to get one more drive in before the temperatures got uncomfortable. Someone later mentioned a challenge, probably in hopes of scoring some free ice cream and maybe bragging rights, and all of a sudden it all got to be a big friggin deal.

Ratboy, I understand your feelings about "group unity". It is good that we all participate, as a group.
However, I don't remember hearing your negative comments, last year, in Kingman, about some people wanting to go to the Golden Corral, while the vast majority went to the Dambar, or about a few weeks ago there, when some people went to Taco Bell, some to the Corral, some to The Chop House, and some to the Calico. Your definition of "group unity" is different than mine. I guess I'm old and crotchety, too.