[Karl Bebout]

There are some nice turns on the alternate route. A few marked 30 and even a couple 20s but what I really liked were the wide sweeping 50s that were fun at 80+. The 460 turns on the 119 mile Devil's Hwy. get a little tiresome, to me.

Danr, where Bob and I came out was actually 19 miles north of Hannigan's meadow. That's why we just went on to Springerville, last year. We figured that everyone would have finished with their lunch by the time we got there. Our little detour took some extra time. (Duncan, was it?) Someplace toothless.