[Bob Broberg SPF667 460BB]

How about going back to Dambar? tel:+1 928-753-3523. They won't be so crowded this year.
Also, if Dan's group is not leaving until 11am, it's 1.5 hours to Chino Valley the old way and 2.5 hours the other way so, the 2 groups will be about 30 minutes apart at pit stop. Then 1 hour to Seligman and 1.5 hours to Motel via Rte 66.