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Old 01-18-2003, 11:14 AM
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Turk left out another factor beyond financial investment.

I didn't buy the CSX because of investment value. If I wanted investment value there are other options that are better. I bought the CSX because its a Shelby and because of its unique place as the only car being made currently that is not merely a replica of a Cobra but because it IS a COBRA.

There is an intangible value to owning a REAL Cobra. At least to me. Obviously some limit their definition of "REAL" for whatever reason to mean only "original". Thats fine. Not factually accurate but thats fine.

No. I don't run around telling everyone my car is REAL. That comment was obviously directed at me. My signature line is a response to the perpetual comments or knocks stemming from "sour grapes". Not that I really care what others here say knowing it stems in large part from sour grapes but just to make clear my position which is based on FACT.

Many here have no problem knocking CS and his cars. Many here have no problem arguing that the second generation Cobra is not a real Cobra does not deserve to be considered so. Many here support such arguments and pile on.

The "anti" CSX arguments usually follow from simple FACTUAL statements made by me as to what the new CSX is in the context of questions posed in a thread. The "anti" CSX crowd at times becomes so emotional at times as to threaten running others into the wall. Sour grapes and CSX envy at its best. This usually comes from those that couldn't or can't afford a CSX.

There are many who don't evidence the envy or sour grapes and don't own a CSX and clearly understand the simple and factual statements being made by CSX owners, most notatbly me. These guys are happy with what they have and obviously made a decision they didn't want a Shelby for whatever reason. Those guys have my respect.

I'm not sensative about the "replica" thing. Maybe others are. Technically the new CSX is a replica. No problem.

There clearly is a premium charged to own a CSX. That premium buys you a car that is considered a Cobra factually and legally. When others attack that pedigree I just repectfully point out they are wrong.

It seems to be within the rules here to attack the CSX cars but cleraly out of bounds to defend the "knocks" with the facts. I don't accept that.

Some here eventhough owning a CSX wish to remain politically correct. Thats fine.

I don't give a crap about remaining politically correct. I state it like it is. Just the facts. Those facts are obviously found caustic by those with CSX envy. Sorry can't help that.

The term Cobra is just a name. In the 60's Shelby put Cobra badges on AC's. Today he puts badges on Kirkhams. So what. They are both factually and legally Cobras. One vintage series one new series. Its that simple.

Original Shelby's bring a premium over orignianl AC's. New Shelbys bring a premium over a Kirkham. The name obviously has a value as determined by the market. The "Shelby" name is historically very significant. Like it or not.

What car is better? ERA or SAI or anything else. Thats a loaded question. Depends on what "better" means to you. "Better" to me is to have a Cobra as opposed to a car that just looks like one.

Finally, while I don't run around telling people my car is REAL unsolicited, I sure do tell them its a REAL Cobra if asked while making clear its his new/second generation Cobra. In every case without exception people are in awe and amazed with the car and excited to be looking at a Shelby Cobra and not a car that just looks like one.
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