[klayfish]

Dan,
I suppose I should apologize to the family. I kind of thought it went without saying how bad I feel for the families. My "rant" makes it pretty obvious how much it disturbs me. I have the deepest of sympathy for his family.

I agree that both recent crashes were accidents. Neither one of them meant to crash their cars. What is so troublesome is that it didn't need to happen.

I never suggested that anything be mandatory. I agree 100% with what you have said. Some people have a certain mindset, and always will. I respect that, I really do. It doesn't mean I have to agree with it. If we are able to create some kind of a group, nobody has to join. I would only hope that those who do will have the mindset previously discussed.

That is all I suggest. I don't want to see another car wrecked or another grieving family. Accidents will always happen, no doubt about it. But why not try to minimize them if we can?

Steve