[rdorman]

I bought my pan from Armondo out n cali (do a search for contact info), he makes a very nice pan. Fully baffled and trap door, windage, 'scraper', new pick up, rail type pan. 8+ quart capacity and I picked up a couple of inches of ground clearence. Aviad style and quality for about a C note less. My install I just unbolted the pan, installed the pick-up and that was it. Didn't need to pull the starter or any thing.
Rick