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X: You made my point eloquently. I was at the open even precisely because it was a cheap way for me to scrub tires and set up the suspension. No "racing" is allowed, passing done only on the straights. As far as being "born" with ability, I don't have all that much, but I was born with sense. Advertise track time, allow people with questionable ability, in cars not teched, let alone properly prepared, some much faster than others (due to car or driver willingness), and stand by and watch a dozen or so offs during an afternoon, strikes me as a bit like refusing to use a trigger lock on an accessable handgun. Testosterone is a funny thing, and left unchecked will almost always get a guy in trouble. I'd just prefer to be absent when the trouble eventually presents itself, and it eventually will. Your call. Go to as many as you wish. We were talking about liability here, for the car, and also personal liability. It's always faintly amazed me that nobody's widow has yet successfully sued the gold teeth from organizers, participants and/or track owners over the results of such activities. Particularly with the "Run & Gun" types, which are advertised, either explicitly or tacitly as an event to "let it go and see what it'll do". A third year law student could make a case that might keep you in court over a year and cost you $20K (even if you win). Like I say, you pays yer dough and you takes yer chances. When the subject of liability comes up, you should know all the issues. This one is mine.