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Old 03-12-2004, 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by Turk


We all understand economics enough to be dangerous. We all understand free trade etc.

What we don't seem to understand is if all items that can be manufactured elsewhere were manufactured there (wherever that is) and every company who used to manufacture those goods here in the US was to layoff their work force, WHO is GOING to buy those cheaper goods when they come in to the country?

Wat do you DO with the now UNEMPLOYED Americans?

I am NOT a protectionist by any means, but I do worry about the exporting of American Labor overseas to a country that has Billions and Billions of hard working population who will be glad to assemble, manufacture whatever we need.

If every company that can pack up and leave did, what in the hell do we do with our people?

It is beyond competition. They have the need, the population, work conditions, the wages and the will to do it for less INDEFINETELY......
What do you do with the American workers when every job is performed elsewhere?

Is a foreign worker working for $3.00 an hour overseas better for American Economy, as compared to an American worker making $13.00 and paying taxes and spending here.

We know what benefits a company gets by reducing the cost of their manufacturing, but what benefits does America get by taking tax payers and laying them off. You have just increaded their dependency on the social services, public education, health services. You have simultenously decreased their contribution to the treasury. They don't pay taxes if they don't have jobs. They can't buy things if they don't have jobs.

Am I the only one who flunked economics in here?

The burden shifts to those who can NOT take their businesses elsewhere and have to employ local labor. So we tax the $hit out of those unfortunate few who stayed working here in the States.

We can't all work for the service industries. They already have foreign workers to pick the fruits and vegetables, and plenty to make up the beds in hotels..

Can't we all learn from California what happens when you export your jobs out of the reach of those who want to live and work here?

TURK

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TURK- your point is well taken, and I think most people agree. Unfortunately, America and Americans have created this problem for themselves. We used to be able to do things that no other country on earth could do, thereby justifying a higher standard of living. But, beginning with Japan in the 1960's, other countries learned how to do better work for much less money. The baby boomers squandered their head start by lazy assed consumerism. Now, they are broke and unemployable. A truly free market would allow people to go for the best deal, and the best deal is no longer in America. Americans feel entitled. The are not hungry and motivated. Many are fat and lazy and increasingly stupid. They do not deserve to win solely because they are American. Unfortunately, the fewer hard working Americans will suffer along with the rest, because when the work moves overseas, the good ones get layed off, too. Hard to accept, but, show me where the Simpson's generation deserves to be rich. "I am NOT illiterate- my Mama was married for 3 day 'fo I was bone".
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