[mr bruce]

It is against FEDERAL LAW to make up your own VIN number, or take one from one car and affix it to another. How do you get a proper title to an already existing car?(lost title, etc) Most antique /collectable cars were built by a major MFG and were given a proper VIN when built, so there is a little clearer path to follow. Each state is different, I am only familier with PA. The cars in question weren't "real" cars, only "gliders" (fully assembled, less motor and trans). They are in a super duper grey area. I contacted the SAE in reguards to the MSOs given by the various mfgs. Their thinking was that only bonified auto MFGs could issue VINs, for a complete ,running car, that meets all FEDERAL, safety/ emmission standards, a "kit" car was nothing more than parts so how could it be a car and get a VIN from the MFG? Some companys go so far as to put 1965 as year on their MSOs, how long 'till some bearuocrat looking to move up the ladder goes after that company? Each state is different, with over 70,000 titles in Calif alone, what about the other 49, we have only seen the tip of the iceburg on this matter.