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Probably the most important part of this thread, at least to me is when you post,
“I get the impression that you are going to dodge the point at hand, here. For one thing, you continue to fail to address one particular question that continues to arise. I’m not going to bring it up again. Feel free to pick it up on your own, after all, it is YOUR party. Surely you know what I’m getting at, Ed.
JP, what is the point? What are you getting at? Really, I’m as serious as a heart attack. WHAT IS THE POINT AT HAND? WHAT IS THE ‘ONE PARTICULAR QUESTION’? WHAT ARE YOU GETTING AT? Since you climbed all over Hotfingers for NOT knowing what your agenda is, please tell me --TELL US what your agenda is!
Spit it out. Just ask! Be prepared though, I will answer whatever question(s) you want answers to. You may not like the answer(S), but rest assured, if I know the question, you will get an answer.
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Mike Braatz: ”Ed, I think you need to be more vigilant in financial accountability.”
Mike, take this as you know me, I am not being evasive, nor am I taking an attitude of any kind but who says I am not? I’d really like to know that one. (See my very first page of this entry.) Do you think we don’t have a record of every dime spent? Can you possibly think that we, meaning the people that run the Fling, don’t watch and bicker over absolutely every dollar OR dime that is spent? Let me give you a few examples just from last year; CF wanted us to use the same company that they use to supply their tents—Randy called that company and was appalled at the $1,500.00 cost they quoted us for our tent. Randy then called absolutely everyone in the Columbus, London, AND surrounding areas to get quotes. He finally settled on “Madison Tent and Awning Co.” where their price was almost $1,000.00 less. Want another one? How about chairs and tables? Again CF’s contact was reached. Again Randy thought he could do better and DID, saving hundreds of dollars over what the local CF chapter would have paid. Once again? How about the outdoor portable lighting, or the Caterers, or the port-a-potty’s? Again and again and again, we, meaning “we”, question every cent that we spend! Does anyone think that we go all the way to Toledo, Oh. for the caterers because their food is better? Not hardly! Although, it is pretty darn good in my opinion. We research every year for a new caterer, only to “beat the price” from Harlan’s. So far, Harlan’s not only has had great food, great service—driving more than two hours to get here, they also have beat any quotes that we have had year after year.
Same page, toward the end:
Jay N… after posting a few direct comments,
clayfoushee posts: “Jay, you’re a good guy, but I think there’s a lot you’re not aware of.”
Clay, would you clarify all of that for me/us. What do you think that Jay is not aware of? I for one would surely like to know.
Then Clay posts, “JP, I’m impressed with your willingness to be on the point of the spear. Keep it going buddy. Your friends have you back”.
DV…Wow, quite a comment Clay. Let “your” friends be made public so that I may answer all their questions.
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Dave Semko: in part…I say quit bickering about the money. We have no right to know the details. It is a business, its Ed’s business, and doesn’t owe us any explanations.
Didn’t post to Dave’s statement sooner, but a simple answer to this is, a polite ‘you’ do have a right to know ALL the details about the Fling. If you want to know…just ask, plain and direct. Simple really.
What I’m missing is the common comments from Mansfield, Oh to Richmond, In. that keeps popping up. Once again it IS a BUSINESS, it’s Ed’s business.
I’m absolutely at a loss over the ‘business’ comments. I surely hope that one of you tell me when it became a business, especially ‘MY’ business.
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Mike Braatz’s post about funds and the raffle car. I have already spoken to this and hopefully it was made plain, and simple. If not, then by all means let me know what I missed.
Pat Buckley: “I must have missed something…..I fail to see what is so “amazing” about that comment and to that end, I think it is time to start speaking plain English.”
Pat, what I found “amazing” was that Turk posted earlier in this thread, very basically, since I can’t find the quote right now, that regardless how many times I ask our group for suggestions/opinions, they are ignored anyway, or that I simply don’t listen to them. THAT is what I found amazing. Simply that Turk would post such a comment. Then, in addition, toward the bottom of page 15… “Will you allow or welcome input and direction from folks who have indicated a desire to have a hand in organizing this thing?”
Although every fiber in my soul wants to scream out an answer to this absolutely ludicrous statement, I will only say…of course, I will AND I always do.
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Just to answer Toms /OhBuoy comments,
Tom, I have found out over the years, and not just the Flings, that ‘kits’ do not do nearly as well in a raffle as a turnkey-minus’, or a completed car. I certainly agree about building it ‘your way’ too! But, again, time was of the essence. I think it was Mike that posted about Shell Valley and he is absolutely right. Dana and Rich Anderson have offered us a complete “kit” for at least three years. It is certainly NOT because I have turned them down. First FFR came in with the Cp, then just as I was about to take them up on their wonderful offer, David Kirkham posted that they were giving us a very special 289 FIA Kirkham Cobra. Then we of course come to present day, and the rest is recent history. Not enough time, etc., etc. As far as the “Badlands”, (CRII) funny you should bring that up!
To finalize; since we try and sell the raffle tickets from one end of the country to the other, many people that buy the tickets are NOT builders in any way, they just want something shiny and cool to drive away in. If we are to ever hold a raffle again, and we have more than one choice, rest assured I will “ask permission” from the entire “Family” on which one we choose!
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Pat Buckley: DV FOR PRESIDENT!!!
If it’s even just a wee bit of sarcasm, I still find it hilarious, especially today –October 28,04. I CAN MAKE UP MY MIND that is if all of you tell me what it’s supposed to be. (Smiley face please-WORD wont allow me to do that! I don’t think I would be any worse of a candidate than what is on the board right now!
MIKE: just a comment about your event breakdown and costs associated with each event. That would be a LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE! I think it takes the “KISS” approach and decapitates the idea!
Page 20: Dave Semko…
I was going to post something regarding your remarks, decided it just ‘aint worth it’. If you want to take it up further, or expound on it deeper, you know where I am.
SUMMATION:
I know…finally.
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