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Originally posted by PJS50
Well,
I lot of these discussion points are like debating about religion... Nobody is right for EVERY occasion...
While I am not saying that Holley is all of a sudden P.O.S. carbs, I just thought I'd give the Mighty Demon a try on my 460. I need a different carb either way... The one that's on there now just aint cutting it...
It does seem kinda funny that NOW all of a sudden Holley is actually mimicking the Demon carbs features (billet metering block & bases, etc...).
Also, did holley drop the 850 CFM HP from that series? I was on the Holley wesite yesterday and I couldn't find an 850 HP, or any 850 CFM carb without the airhorn...? Did I just miss it? The air horn is one of the reasons that I am ditching my current Holley in the first place...
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It is true that there are multiple ways of approaching the issue of efficient fuel metering systems. In regard to carburetion, the king of efficiency is, in my mind, Weber. But try and fine tune an IDF / IDA someday and you will know why sometimes "Good enough" is just right..
Holley mimicking Demon?
Actually - it is the other way around. BG is building their carbs under a patent license from Holley. BG was, for many years, one of the best places to go to purchase his "Blueprinted" Holley carbs - I know, I have installed many dozen of them and have spoken with the man himself on multiple occassions.
Billet throttle bodies and metering blocks - Holley did have Billet metering blocks on the market for their 4500 series carbs until they found they could produce the carbs far cheaper by using castings. Remember the 4500 (Dominator) series used to cost over 1 grand just to get into the 1050 carb. That price is now about 1/2 of that (Dealer cost).
Now that BG has proven that the market will once again bear the expense involved to get "Bling-bling" (anodized / billet anything) Holley has wisely decided to re-enter the market. This was "smart" business on the part of Holley because they let BG spend his money to test the waters..
I still have all the faith in the world in Barry Grant. He understands the world of carburetion better than anyone alive today. However, few of the BG carbs you buy today have ever been through his facility and manybe none of them have been in his own hands. They are currently dealing with QC issues (in my humble opinion) and BG needs to step up and deal with them.
The rest of the problem is in support. The adjustability in the newer breed BG carbs is akin to the Weber racing carbs. They are base-lined just fine, but it is exceedingly easy to get well off-course and have a carb that causes you troubles that are almost insurmountable without returning back to the documented baseline and starting over...
I apologize for the length of this msg..