[rdorman]

Woah there fellas! All I am saying is let people defend themselves before jumping to conclusions. I have no doubt that any one that posted here believes in what they say nor some folks have a beef but until all parties are heard, then how can those outside judge?

I like most of you have no involvement in this and I will hold my judgement until I hear from all.

I have made NO assumptions. My post says nothing assumed about any one except my faith in people, that 'all involved will work things out' and 'all are men following a passion'.

I have no way to get ahold of Jay better then the rest of you, the phone book.

Rick