[hot427cobra]

Sorry about the confusion. Not that the spinner has to be vertical or horizontal position, I was referring to the piece of wood and how it was being struck. When I hit the wood 2x4, I am striking the end of the board on the butt end, like a nail head. What I meant about hitting the 2x4 horizontally, would be hitting the side of the 2x4 as if it was laying flat on the ground.