[flipper35]

The first year I went I took a 30-30 and I was the one forced through all the brush. Didn't see a thing though. Then I started carryiing the 06 and it had a flip down scope and was a carbine, so who do you suppose got to go through all the brush still? What's funny though, is opening morning I always sat in a valley where they crossed and my longest shot at a deer was maybe 60 yards even though I could see several hundred yards each way. Coyote I have shot out to 400 yards on the run with that gun.