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Old 05-27-2007, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by VRM
Hey Bernie,

A quote from our mutual friend. Do you still say that you agree with him?

The President vetoed our troops and the American people. His stubborn commitment to a failed strategy in Iraq is incomprehensible. He committed our great military to a failed strategy in violation of basic principles of war. His failure to mobilize the nation to defeat world wide Islamic extremism is tragic. We deserve more from our commander-in-chief and his administration.
--Maj. Gen. John Batiste, USA, Ret.


Note the part where he mentions the violation of the basic principles of war - something I have said from day 1.


Mike, fighting does not have to be done with just bombs, bullets, and bayonets. There are many more avenues we should be exploring to combat extremeists. I personally think that many of those avenues will be a lot more productive than what we are doing now. Even the definition of jihad is not limited to use of weapons. Jihad can mean a lot of different things - and not all of them are bad. I agree that it will probably take a couple of generations or more to eliminate Islamic radicals, but there has to be some changes in thinking by a number of people in order to get it done.

Ron,
How do you define being in the middle? I am not registered as either Dem or GOP. There are times that I think one or the other party is more correct about a certain issue.

Steve
You don't sound like you are in the middle, you sound like a lefty, big time! You sort of sound like Jane Fonda during the Vietnam War - I wonder if you are also in the protester crowd.

A little about Jane - do you see yourself?

"Jane Fonda wasn’t pro-American. She wasn’t neutral. She was anti-American. That makes her an enemy. She sat in a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun emplacement while the war was going on and allowed herself to be photographed BY THE NORTH VIETNAMESE for propaganda purposes. Was that in your “research”?

The fact that she took advantage of the privileges bestowed upon her, being born in a “capitalist” country, to an elite family, hardly insulates her from being considered a “communist.” Regardless, her actions were the very definition of “traitor.”

All war protestors are not “communists” or “enemies.” But enough ARE."

Also, we aren’t causing nor have we caused a civil war in Iraq. The arab world did that themselves and our politicans and media perpetuate it all. Our politicians don’t care about Americans, that’s something I’m becoming more sure of daily. They don’t really care about this country or our way of life.

The US can’t surrender. Ever. I know people exist, in middle America mostly, who won’t take this lying down. I’m counting on them. Unfortunately, the east coast and west coast fell years ago. The media doesn’t care at all (they will when their amendment rights are eventually infringed upon).

I respectfully suggest you research middle eastern/arab history with a special emphasis on Islam. And of course all the cultural info. It will open your eyes immensely.

If we don’t win this, Iraq will be taken over by Iran and Syria. They’re hoping we give up.

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