[vettestr]

Mikiec and others get to 83 by no later than 5 (maybe earlier) but I have never been there early enough to beat them, I sneak in a little after so not so dang hot. I will be there by 6 or so and because we park more to the N. there seems to be spots if a bit later. The center or more S. fills up quicker and you need to be Special.... Very Special to get a spot in the center to center/south area. LOL