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Originally Posted by cobra de capell
Steve - You simply wear posters down, so presenting points to a closed mind would fit the definition of insanity and you of all people know about dealing with insanity.
We all have hindsight, but most Americans were on board as things progressed over the years, including the invasion of Iraq. As with all wars, when things start to go south, people like you come out of the woodwork at some level of protest as if War is a piece of cake and not close to being in hell. Yes, mistakes were made but no, it's not possible to explain everything in hindsight as you seem to want.
All of us elected representatives at all levels, they voted to go into Iraq, we did and now we are looking to get out in the right way. This isn't rocket science.
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CdC,
Having a closed mind means that there is no capability for learning. I prefer to think that even old dogs can still be taught new tricks once in a while. My mind is not closed - you have the chance to convince me with facts, historical reference, whatever. However, most of you make statements with little or nothing to back them up. When I challenge the statements many of you make I usually get insults, caveman pictures, and so on. That, to me, sounds like a lot of people on Kool-Aid who do not want their personal reality disturbed.
There were plenty of people who predicted the mess that we would be in, but everybody was too hyped up to go kick some ass to listen to anything but the rosy-case scenario. The leaders we currently have in place also have closed minds. As a result we will be unable to learn from our mistakes, and we will continue to do the same thing (or minor variations thereof) and expect different results. That is the definition of insanity.
You call me a liberal - what does that mean to you?
You say that you are conservative. What does that mean, and how does that compare with the people you last voted for?
Steve