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Old 11-08-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamo
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How thick is your wallet?

Me, I don't scrimp...anywhere. You can read threads and the same brands keep popping up. I allowed my engine builder, Joe Boghosian, who is extremely old school and has been building motors for 50 years (everything from Andretti's 69 Indy winner to drag boats to flatheads to Offys to Dick Smith's motors since #198 first started running) to build it his way.

The one thing I chose? That phuking solid roller.

Many of the things he chose were due to long-time relationships he had with suppliers over the past half century. For assample, when he explained what crank he chose, he referred to "one of Hank's" which I later learned meant a Velasco. Some folks use Scats or other brands. My Velasco is very likely overkill, but it's not just the brand...it's what the builder does to it.

Let's key in on the crank a moment. Joe had "Hank" scribe some reverse mini-trenches at the back of the crank...which help draw oil away from the critical rear main area. This is something George Anderson (an FE god from Hastings, Nebraska) also says is critical...and George ("Jorge") builds enough FEs that he started making Velasco do it on a regular basis.

Another item concerning the same issue...the back of the Shelby block has a couple of little drain holes for taking oil away from the same rear main area. Joe, George, Mike LeFevre and others go right after that area and enlarge them or reshape them. In Joe's case...he simply makes them into a single rectangular galley of sorts. So, between that and the scribbed lines on the crank...the rear main area is having oil drained away from it. I think Mike said Shelby has since opened up that area anyway.

With regard to cams...Joe happened to deal with Clay Smith for decades and it was a custom grind. What was most surprizing to me was that he didn't go with Isky, despite their decades long poker rallies. Blood goes so far. He tied that in with Comp Cams roller lifters...again, his choice. Generally speaking (and someone said it here), it is hard to fault staying with a single brand of cam, lifters, etc. since they are designed to work together.

Other stuff? T&D is muy goodo for the top end, C-P makes nice pistons, Manley rods are a mainstay, Melling hi-volume pumps, March pulleys, Aviad pans, MSD, etc. etc. Everyone has their own opinions, and there are (thankfully) lots of alternatives. If you're using a builder...as was said earlier on this thread....meet with him, talk to him and let him know what you are REALLY going to do with the car. And then let the builder match up the stuff that matches your wallet/with your use/with his experience.

Either flat tappet or hydraulic roller IMO.
Jamo-it seems our engines have a bit in common.
My builder (Jack Peloquin*)called Velasco and wouldn't ya know it-he had a Side-oiler crank sitting on the shelf.So i hauled a$$ down to Velasco to pick it up.It took me a little longer than expected as i had to repetitively pick my jaw up off the floor as i was looking at a who's who in drag racing on the office walls.Pictures of everyone from Garlits to Muldowney to Sox & Martin to Grumpy( i could go on forever)It was like a museum for anyone who was anyone.
My only regret was that i didn't have the patience for them to grind me a stroker crank.It would have been another 6 months but it would have been worth it.
I was 8 hours from calling Shelby and ordering an aluminum block.At the 11th hour Jack called and siad he found a SR Sideoiler that had NEVER been apart.$1000 later i had a block that cleaned up at 17 over.
Next came Cunningham rods,Arias pistons,solid flat-tappet Clay Smith cam,FPP valve train gear,Performer RPM,E-heads ported by Dralle,Canton pan,MSD igntion & a Braswell carb.

Jack was a So.Cal FE builder who earned his reputation by making FEs live in off-shore racing applications.He is now "retired",living in Santa Maria,Ca.Now he does the builds out of his house.And he also has maintained a relationship with Velasco and knew Clay Smith for 50+ years.I see a pattern........
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