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Old 02-15-2008, 07:41 PM
Wes Tausend Wes Tausend is offline
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Originally Posted by Jamo View Post
Wes

Actually, I would "admit" the mom and pop sole proprietors are at the foundation, and I represent a good number of them. They are called farmers.

And unions have all but destroyed the family farm here in California, which creates the corporate giants you despise.
Jamo,

Well that is a refreshing new angle, for me, on whence comes your perspective. My bad for not giving you more credit in the first place. I kind of wrongly assumed that your main drive was possibly some Enron/bottom-corporate-line type agenda, little guy be damned. I guess I knew that you farmed and/or had orchards at one time. Without knowing the details, I take it your labor costs jumped, in what you would consider an unreasonable (unbearable?) fashion, due to organized labor efforts. And that somehow, a corporate giant can survive where a Mom-and-Pop family can't. We have a similar struggle for the family farm survival in our state.

Still, I live in an odd state. In North Dakota, corporate farming is not allowed (or at least held to a very limited role). All to promote the family farm. Now it is my belief that small business is much more productive and efficient per manhour than corporate juggernauts. So this is fine with me even if it is a little communist ...er anti-capitalist.

The state also has it's own Mill and Elevator, commies that we are ( North Dakota Mill and Elevator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ).
And state bank ( http://www.banknd.nd.gov/ ). Seems that out-of-state giants took advantage of our local farmers at one time. The pitchforks, torches and lawbooks came out.

I don't despise corporate giants, they definately have their place. Like I said earlier in the thread, they basically won a couple of wars for us. But I think that the balance of power is listing heavily in favor of corporate power and could be cinched up a bit. Corporate decisions carry no burden of personal integrity and the individual damage to citizens in the name of the bottom line shows it. It's not like any of us common folk can vote policy in the boardrooms. Which is why I like the idea of government power limiting business, particularly juggernauts. At least I can vote until some delegate F's it up.


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