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Thanks for the suggestions, I hoped, but did not really think someone would be able to say hey I know just wahat that is, but who knows. I know it is hard to really help with out being there, but you never know, this forum has done some pretty amazing trouble shooting for folks over the web. I plan to do some more checking tonight, the circuit breaker was not bad and I never found a blown fuse which really confuseded me more. I will explore tonight looking for any loose wires or one that might be making contact somewhere or got hit or rubbed to insulation off of and is now hitting something. Any other ideas keep them coming. Jim
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