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CdC,
Post turtle? Y'know - I really get a chuckle when you and a few others on this forum dig up some phrase as the be-all-end-all insult for whomever disagrees with you at the moment and chant it like a mantra (post turtle, post turtle, post turtle) until you think you've won your argument. In reality, all it gets you is a reputation for a lack of imagination and individual thought.

Associations do matter - McCain usually favoured the policies of the guy who managed to double our national debt in less than 8 years. And BTW, your ASSociation with Bush (you defend his policies) certainly undermines any claim you may think you have to making sound judgments instead of just following the lemmings/sheeple over the cliff. I just wish you would stop dragging the rest of the country with you.

Steve