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So Jefferson had their "holy book" translated into English (hence the reason Jefferson had a copy of the Qu'ran), read it and then understood that paying them off was not going to work. That's when he sent the Marines over to pay a little visit to these caliphs. (Hence the lyrics of the Marine song "From the Halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli"). See once Jefferson read how Muslims are allowed (commanded actually) to lie and deceive the "infidel" (that's us) he knew there was no bargaining with them, no peace agreement possible, no treaty possible; the only way to deal with them is to utterly defeat them.

This is what I have said all along. If we are going to fight them we have to beat them down, and put a boot on their throats. I said it 2 years ago, and I am saying it again. It is a street fight. I think it was Patton who said "people surrender when they are tired of dying". I am sure if that is not correct someone will correct it.