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Old 11-03-2008, 12:28 PM
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No I didn't forget about the re-bar... The question was the cement. or So I thought.
Of course you have to use rebar, or at least re-mesh in flat work. I always used re-bar, it just performs better.

Well I suppose due to the dramatic temp swings in the area the higher PSI would be a factor. I have poured industrial buildings here with 4,500 PSI with no problems at all.

I do agree the spalling looks crappy. We do not have that problem here as bad. The weather is not near as harsh here as it is there. My bad for not taking that into consideration.

Yes, you can do the job yourself, but you had better eat your Wheaties for breakfast because it will kill you if your not in good shape. Pulling mud on the ground is very hard work. It is very well worth the $100 per head for the help for the day. There is no way in hell I would attempt that size pour on my own. The mud will get hot and set before you can get it into place.

You also need to remember the trucks will not sit on the job and wait for you to finally get around to the pour. They want to drive up and empty, wash and leave as quick as possible. Sure they give you a reasonable time to do the work, but they will not tolerate you doing it alone.

Here, the trucks carry nine yards unless they are registered to carry ten. Most are not because of the extra tag fees every year. It is very expensive. They will charge you for the full truck, even if you just order one yard. The only exception is a "tag" on a large pour. You could order "ten and a tag" which would be 90 yards and the a partial truck load. In that situation they would not charge you for the full load. However, if the eleventh truck was a full truck and the twelfth truck was the tag they might charge you a delivery fee. That would depend on your relationship with the concrete company.

Do not forget that most companies are also charging a "fuel surcharge" now. I have seen it as high as $100. 00 per truck per load. So be sure to ask.

If you do not have an account with the concrete company you may have to pay in advance. You will want to ask about that as well.
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