[stuartb]

American car manufacturers have been trying to play catch up for the last ten years maybe 20. The japs make them a little better for about the same price, and the germans just make a better all around car. We spent to much time with pick-ups and suv and are the car companies are paying for it. Don't get me wrong I loved my Ford diesel pick-ups and expedetion, but the audi I had and the lexus I own now are way better in ride handling and quality than any American car I have been in.