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Originally Posted by bomelia
Justifying abortion so that the (aborted) kids will not get abused seems a bit over the top. And yes, not having sex does work. 100% of the time as a matter of fact.
Mike
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I never said that abortion could be justified to prevent abuse. I also think that would be over the top and is not something I am in favour of. Ok, point taken on abstinence.
Let me be a little more specific; abstinence is working great for the 3 people following that birth control method. For the millions who are not, well, it just is not getting the job done - I would rather find something that will actually have results.
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Originally Posted by Scott S
How so?
Scott S
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Scott,
Your comment "we tire of being called bigots or worse." indicates to me that you are not willing to work with pro-choice folks because they have called you names. If this is not the case, my apologies. I consider reducing the number of abortions a good thing, and I would be willing to swallow a bit of pride to do it.
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Originally Posted by 95CobraR
Since you are for abortion, I was wondering when you may think it becomes murder? Is it OK to abort in the last trimester (week 28 until the birth)? Is it OK to abort just before birth? Is a baby not a human until it exits the womb of the poor teenager?
What about the thousands of worthy couples that would like to adopt a child?
The grand baby of the Governor of a state in the United States of America is a risk to society? This ignores the fact that the family believes that it is immoral to take the life of an unborn child.
Why don't we pass a law that requires the future mother to prove she can support a child before allowing her to give birth? Afterall, it is the poor that usually make unfit parents. Why not sterilize all males who prove to be unfit fathers?
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CobraR,
Your choice of words describing me as 'for abortion' is interesting, typical, and totally wrong.
Some courts consider it murder to kill a mother with an unborn baby, some do not.
I am all in favour of eliminating abortions past 6 months right now. The only exception I would make is for the health of the mother, and I would leave the choice up to her.
I would also be in favour of eliminating abortions earlier (other than mothers health and rape situations) provided some other conditions are met first. Things like the pro-life side advocating birth control, sex ed, and increased male responsibility for their actions. Unfortunately, the Catholic church preaches against birth control. I think that is asinine as it increases the unintended pregnancies, and resultant abortions.
There are plenty of kids who are available for adoption right now, but some are black, and many American adoptive parents would rather adopt a kid from China or Russia than an American black kid. Being black is not a birth defect, but it is treated that way by many in this country. Oh, and how much extra are you willing to contribute to pay for extra welfare kids?
Bristol Palins baby is not a threat to society - I never said that. However, a lot of teens with less of a support system than Bristol Palin might decide that an abortion is easier than trying to cope, especially as Palin is NOW running around telling people that they should learn her lesson.
Steve