[Dan40]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

OK I'm sure that not enough people are living within their means, but this was just what the banks and corporations wanted, they did everything in their power to make this society what it is today, Oh sure it was the peoples own foolishness to buy into living a lifestyle thy could not afford, but not all of us have gone down that road.

Once again, scare tactics, it's OK for the republicans to borrow and spend but not for the democrats to Tax and spend, the people have spoken, we are willing to pay extra to get healthcare, and force the insurance companies to take clients with pre-existing conditions, and not refuse to cover you because it's too expensive, I don't feel bad if the CEO, can't get a 300% increase in pay in 2 years, yes that’s correct look it up! Just as we are willing to pay for defense, police, firefighter, and yes education, if you do not wish to contribute to the commons, then get the hell out, it's We the people, in order to from a more perfect union. And that's what we are doing! Either get on board or get out!

See if you recoginize that this is the exact same vomit that you champion on this board.
All of the ignorant, brainwashed and stupid statements you make ARE contained within the following::

Synopsis of The Communist Manifesto

The Communist Manifesto is too long to be a concise declaration of principles and too short to be a book. It is composed of about 17,000 words including various introductions by Friedrich Engels. It is arranged, basically, in four sections. The first section introduces the Marxian idea of history as a class struggle. It juxtaposes the conditions and development of various strata of society, "freeman and slave, patrician and plebian, lord and serf...in a word, oppressor and oppressed." It hypothesizes how the development of each of these in history gave rise to the next step in an inevitable historical process culminating ultimately in the rise of one working class.
Marx and Engels put forward the notion that the working class is exploited by the bourgeoisie. Positing a labor theory of value where the value of goods and services is based strictly on the amount of labor that is put into them, The Manifesto, says that all the surplus that goes to the capitalist as profits is in reality the "property" of the working class who created that wealth.
The second section of the Communist Manifesto addresses the nature of the new working class which he calls the proletariate. He reviews its implications for the advancement of society, including the abolition of property and family. This section also stresses a kind of Utopia that can only be brought about by violence and conflict with the working class wresting power from the bourgeoisie (the owners of the means of production). This conflict is projected also to bring about the end of nation-states and, ultimately, all forms of government, resulting in a worker's paradise.


This is the future you seek, ALREADY proven to be unworkable.
RU nuts??