[Bartruff1]

Originally Posted by turnpike boy

How much time is reasonable, Bart? This program has been underway for...what?...3 weeks now? Are you saying it's reasonable for those dealers to wait week after week for reimbursement? That it's OK for them to have to finance the Administration's Great Ideas?

When's the last time the IRS was willing to finance you? Or Medicare? Or Social Security? Or your state?

Yeah, there are some who are bigoted and full of hatred for Obama, some in here too. In the main, however, there are a whole lot more of us who are truly sick and tired of having ideas rammed down our throats, by demagogues who think they're simply so much smarter than the rest of us that they can decide best. This has NOTHING to do with Repubs or Demos or Independents - this has EVERYTHING to do with out-of-touch, arrogant, let-them-eat-cake politicians, of whom Obama has surrounded himself. So did Bush before him, although to a lesser degree (Cheney nothwithstanding).

Obama may indeed be a "brilliant, articulate, earnest, well intentioned young man that has a very different view of the role of government", but that does NOT entitle him to commandeer your income (or the dealers) to enable his vision. As a man and an individual, he is worthy of the respect any of us deserves - but more will have to be earned, and you don't get that by force.

Which is largely why the Left hated Bush so intensely. Same reasons. And if Bush was treated fairly, then so is Obama - critical observation of any politicians' actions is an obligation of us all. The derision and disrespect hurled at Bush on nearly galactic proportions can equally be decried. A dead horse now.

Obama is compromised by the Reid's and the Pelosi's and Kennedy's.....ad nauseam. Repubs are no less abhorrent. It just happens at this time that HE's the one in charge, so what do you expect? - the grass is always greener, and he did ask for the job.

BTW, it is a difficult equation to pare up an absence of faith in Government's ability to run a program the size of health care with your statement that many see Obama as "evil incarnate". Hopefully you don't perceive the town hall meetings as drummed up too - then the critical thinking aspect might need to be revisited.

No one forced the dealers to participate...the association is very happy with the program... I think months would be reasonable.. Bush was definetely not treated fairly and not only by the left...his second term was quite good...Yes, Obama has to control Ried and Pelosi ...they are irresponsible and personify everything...EVERYTHING that is wrong in Congress .. I don't think Kennedy will be a problem... I watched Barney's town hall meeting on C Span and the questions that were questions and asked civilized manner recieved a similar reply....the others (the ones on Cable) also got a appropriate reply... if I made my judment of the town halls on the news coverage, I would say they were full of semi dangerous nutcakes...but that is a distorted picture. They were really very good and useful. I don't believe the gov can do a good job of managing health care...they don't have the resources to manage Medicare....as far as taxes go, my federal tax rate is less than 10% because of the loopholes for capital gains and losses, deductions for everything under the sun...ect...and yes I am in his target group and that doesn't concern me... did I miss something ?