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Old 08-30-2009, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Excaliber View Post
Just in the last week or less, here in Hawaii, 250 patients from Micronesia are being denied chemotherapy and dialysis for one simple reason. The State has run out of money. The hospital said they will continue care for awhile, in hopes that monies can be secured some how, some way, but they can't continue forever. For those on dialysis this is a quick death sentence if care is witheld, straight up.

Who ARE these people? -- By Federal law they are not considered immigrants nor are they US citizens, the Feds are supposed to pay for their care. But Hawaii state has been paying 80-90% for their care for years. It cannot do that any longer, will the Feds step up? Who should get care? Who should be left to die? We might need a bioethicist before this over...
Well, lets just see if anybody is denied dialysis. Obviously they are not US citizens, and their own country won't take care of them. By the way, death by lack of dialysis is not a bad way to go. My Dad's first cousin, Joey, decided to go that way about 10 years ago, after been on dialysis for 30-40 years, lost both of his legs, blind, etc. He decided to stop dialysis and die, which he did. Sad story. Other people have chosen this as well. The point is THEY CHOSE THIS, NOT THE GOVERNMENT DECIDING FOR THEM WHO WILL AND WON'T GET DIALYSIS. PRESENTLY, FOR THE MOST PART, IT IS YOU AND THE DOCTOR WHO ARE DECIDING WHAT CARE YOU NEED, WILL GET. DO YOU WANT SOMEBODY ELSE DECIDING FOR YOU WHAT CARE YOU WANT FOR YOU, YOUR PARENTS, CHILDREN?


So, back to the Micronesians (near the Phillipines, wake, guam), I saw the press release::

Micronesians United rallied at the state Capitol today against a new state plan that will cut back on health care benefits to some 7,500 adult Micronesians who are part of the Compact of Free Association.


About 30 members of the group also sat in the governor's offices for more than an hour after requesting to see her, but aides said she was in a meeting and couldn't speak to them. No administration officials came out to speak the group.

Elma Coleman, a member of Micronesians United, said she was disappointed the governor didn't speak to the group. She said they would be back on Monday morning to again seek a meeting with the governor.

"It seems like she doesn't care," Coleman said.

Meanwhile, Lawyers for Equal Justice told Micronesians United members that they were looking into filing suit against the state over the health care cuts.

The new Basic Health Hawaii program would save the state $15 million but limits monthly services to 12 outpatient doctor visits, 10 hospital days, six mental health visits, three procedures and emergency medical and dental care. It does not allow for "life saving" dialysis or chemotherapy treatments.

The new plan is to start on Tuesday.


So, the Fed is responsible for taking of them, not their own government, and your complaining about it, and the irony about it is that you want the Fed to take care of us, because they can do a better job? You and the Politicians want a Fed controlled health care system ? Something here is not right.
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