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Old 08-30-2009, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Excaliber View Post
Triage is a FUNDAMENTAL part of this. --- It is up to the "nurses", "society", "states" or the perhaps the Federal Government to make the final call. But SOMEONE has to do it.

By deciding that they should be no public option YOU are making that decision for thousands of people, good or bad, thats the way it is.


No apology due nor offered.

It would SEEM that YOU fail to grasp triage treatment in the larger context. It could be anything from who goes next in the waiting room of a hosptial, to determining who gets care at a physical plant explosion, multiple car accident or a group of Micronesians waiting for dialysis.

We'll talk more about Triage. About one month ago, one of my employee's nephew, in his late twenties, was assulted at a small city while on vacation. He had his head bashed in, was found unconscious, and then taken to the "local" trauma center. ALTHOUGH HE HAS NO HEALTH INSURANCE, HE WAS IMMEDIATELY CARED FOR, TAKEN TO SURGERY, AND CARED FOR IN THE icu FOR SEVERAL WEEKS, IN A COMA FOR MOST OF IT, AND WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TRANSFERRED BACK HERE LAST WEEK, FOR FURTHER CARE, RECOVERY, ALTHOUGH HE STILL HAS NO INSURANCE. Well, he wasn't left to die in the ER despite having no insurance, and so far, I haven't heard one thing about any care being denied. Hospitals, and hospital docs are expected and mandated to provide charity care, of which the Cleveland Clinic doesn't do it's fair share despite being honored by Obama as a role model health care system, but that's another story. Unfortunately, I think he will likely have permanent brain injuries resulting in permanent disability with him being placed on Medicare disability and medicaid as well. He didn;t fall through the cracks, and many other unfortunate people don;t either. We have a great health care system, alot better than what most people think, or are led to believe by the politicians. As I have stated before, the problem with our system is actually more to do with our society, there are alot more older people now, sicker people, requiring more health care, which is driving the overall cost of care up. We're going to be paying more no matter what, and I think it would be better to keep the system we have now until another system is proven to be better.
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