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Pacco 10-11-2009 09:54 AM

Cold air intake
 
I was watching the Speed channel the other day and saw them installing a Spectre Cold Air Intake on a car. Has anyone on here installed one on their Cobra? Just curious about the results, if you have.

ERA Chas 10-11-2009 06:24 PM

I see you're not getting much response so here's the solution I made up. I am not familiar with the product you saw.

I fabbed this aluminum pan with Moroso foam 5 years ago and it is a major improvement. Power increase and a stable idle by keeping heat away and breathing outside air.

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...dium/QUADS.JPG

Pacco 10-12-2009 04:36 PM

Chas. Thanks for your reply. Your setup looks great. I saw a Spectre Cold Air Intake on the Speed Channel last week and was wondering if anyone here has used this setup. I was wondering about the hood clearance, horsepower increase etc. Thanks again, Pacco

Gaz64 10-12-2009 08:17 PM

I've seen the Spectre setup from Summit and although it is a good concept, I'd prefer to have the whole housing made from some composite material as an insulator to not reheat the incoming air.

Ralphy 10-13-2009 12:17 AM

Pacco check this link out.

http://www.autoanything.com/air-intakes/50A5A115A1.aspx

fastraxsg 10-13-2009 01:10 AM

All the cold air systems I've seen advertised have been for throttle body intakes. I haven't seen any similar to the Spectre introduced for carbs. Chas has one of the nicest ones I've seen in a long time. While it might be possible to make a system like the Spectre's for a carb, the twist and turns plus the ending 90 degree elbow wouldn't seem to have much of a positive effect for a carb in our tight confines. It will interesting to see what FASTERPATRICK ends up with on his, then modify from there for yours. He is a master of problem solving, most often in very unique ways.

strictlypersonl 10-13-2009 07:29 AM

You'd need something like this (minus the superchargers...) to adapt to a standard carb.
http://www.erareplicas.com/cars/673/engine2.jpg
A single external filter is marginal for a big block, so my ideal carb manifold would have two nipples for hoses. Of course you still have to find room for those external filters, which are quite large.

Ralphy 10-13-2009 08:04 AM

The link I posted is pretty much for modern fi cars I know. However I think it reads the same for any cold air system. Getting 5 to 10 HP increase seems easy. Chas did a nice job however as I remember in general a good electrical conductor is a good heat conductor. Need something lighter and less heat conductive then aluminum.

ERA Chas 10-13-2009 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralphy (Post 992955)
The link I posted is pretty much for modern fi cars I know. However I think it reads the same for any cold air system. Getting 5 to 10 HP increase seems easy. Chas did a nice job however as I remember in general a good electrical conductor is a good heat conductor. Need something lighter and less heat conductive then aluminum.

Thanks guys. You're right about heat conduction. What you don't see is that the bottom of my pan is covered with adhesive reflective insulation like most guys use on footboxes. Works very well.

Ralphy 10-13-2009 08:28 AM

Smart move chas, how thick is the plate?

ERA Chas 10-13-2009 09:04 AM

It's a sheet, not a plate-.045". You must remember to flange the carb(s) opening 3/8" to clear the float adjusters.

Mdman352 10-13-2009 10:34 AM

fresh air
 
I have a similiar setup with one four barrel and found I needed to eliminate the foam on the front to allow fresh air to the filter/carb.

ERA Chas 10-13-2009 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mdman352 (Post 992988)
I have a similiar setup with one four barrel and found I needed to eliminate the foam on the front to allow fresh air to the filter/carb.

Yours is very nice and similar to mine. However, removing the foam at the front lets in hot rad air and when you stop, pulls all the underhood heat in.

Solution is to remove the solid filter lid and get K&N Extreme open lid like mine. Then just replace the front foam edge.

CCX 33239 10-13-2009 10:58 AM

Isn't that what the scoop is supposed to do?

CCX 33239 10-13-2009 11:14 AM

Very nice setup,Chas. You mentioned that you got the foam from Moroso. Do you have a link, or how it was refered to? I haven't had any luck looking around their site.
Thanks,

Bob

wicked fast 10-13-2009 11:27 AM

Bob,

Moroso part number is 97070

http://www.jegs.com/i/Moroso/710/97070/10002/-1

I am thinking about adding it to the top edge of my
turkey pan.

Best,
BC

ERA Chas 10-13-2009 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCX 33239 (Post 992993)
Isn't that what the scoop is supposed to do?


Only if the carb is sealed to the scoop with no underhood air entering.

Here's where the foam is:
http://moroso.com/catalog/categorydi...?catcode=34014

At the bottom it says 'Replacement foam part # 97070" Your local speed shop or Summit/Jegs may have it.

dcdoug 10-13-2009 03:34 PM

Is there a foam product that will attach to the top of a turkey pan to seal it to the hood scoop similar to this moroso foam, or will this not make much of a difference?

ERA Chas 10-13-2009 05:10 PM

A TP has holes for linkage and fuel lines-sealing to the scoop won't help much. It also warms the carb baseplate nicely.

CCX 33239 10-13-2009 07:48 PM

Thanks Chas and BC.


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