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Continuation Shelby frames
In the new book about Shelby cars, there is a page on the continuation Cobras. As the text is kind of slipshod and there are no relevant pictures, this sentence confuses me: (from memory) "As the fiberglass body has to be bonded to the frame, the front and rear subassemblies are bolted into the continuation cars instead of welded as in the original."
Does this mean the continuation cars do not have a one-piece frame? Or that the suspension assemblies are bolted in as units? Or what? And is the same frame used in the aluminum cars? |
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Gunner,, having dismantled a fiberglass csx4000 car, the only bolted, instead of welded structure was the square tubes which run from the front cross member to the upper cowl hoop. The body is rivited to the frame & upper structure, I guess thats what they mean by " bonded ". The rear cockpit hoop was changed to accomadate the fiberglass body, and interior tub. I'll add pics to my gallery......Ron
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I find it funny that the Kirkham guys are answering this. :)
Thanks, though. I think this is another area of the book where the author got in over his head and faked his way out. He should have stuck to pictures and lists. |
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Nothing is "bonded", as Ron stated above. |
Some nice cars under the continuation section!:3DSMILE:
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CSX4083 getting mods for SOHC motor with body off in 1998:
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...m/scan0015.jpg Alan Sorkey Shreveport, LA |
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Most books of this type are edited lightly, if at all. A spell-check of the electronic ms file and a read-through by a junior editor is about all it gets. The book would have been far better had a real editor been involved early on to steer the author into a more consistent, fact-driven and less folksy style. |
DougD,,,,,,,I can only speak about CSX47XX, Mexico built. I completly dismantled to bare frame. only bolted bird cage or main frame parts were as I stated in earlier post. I don't doubt that CSX4068 is as you discribe, like the current south africa cars are most likley different as well. I said bodies were rivited. Original post said "bonded".
The CSX I bought did make a good parts car for my Kirkham 427......Ron |
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I have heard that these cars have a number of changes between the glass and ally frames. Rear clip is different, both discrete tubing under dash and cowl are differnt so the one part body can slide into place.
As stated, probably differs between generation of car and country of origin? |
There are differences between South African cars and Mexican cars. The bolt on birdcage tubes either side of trunk are so a one piece glass trunk can be installed. Cowl brace tubes bolt in so footboxes can be removed and installed. Oil cooler brackets bolt on so glass body can be put on over nose. Some front bumper brace tubes bolt to the front of the frame rails for the same reasons. Need pictures or details of something specific let me know.
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Pkease forgive my ignorance, but there arent any rollers actually being manufactured in Vegas are there? I thought they all start in South Afrcia then get shipped to Vegas to get completed. Dont they?
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Ron, in the beginning...
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Ron, the very early CSX4000's were built in Las Vegas.
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Supposidly, the aspect of the frame that includes the engine and suspension pick-up points are the same. The difference between the fiberglass and aluminum car frames is where the body attaches to the frame. The alumijnum cars have a greater "bird-cage" body supporting frame than the fibergalss cars, where the fiberglass body doesn't need as extensive of a supporting structure. You can convert a "fiberglass" frame to an alumimnum one by welding on the necessary body supporting subframe. |
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