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01-24-2010, 04:07 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Windham,,
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Cammers Who are the lucky ones?
Have to say when the Cammer was first talked about years ago,the desire to own one was beyond description.Looked into building one for my Cobra.What a wake up call when I found one that needed to be rebuilt.Next choice was a Boss motor,same sticker shock.Now happy with 385 series.Any of you have a Cammer?
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01-24-2010, 08:12 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Shreveport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4083, NOS 427 SOHC, serial number 589. Dyno'd in 1967 at 629HP with single 4v 560 Holley. Now with 4 Webers.
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This is Cammer #589 in CSX 4083:
Alan Sorkey
Shreveport, LA
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01-24-2010, 10:20 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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I believe Jay Leno's Cobra has a cammer in it.
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01-24-2010, 11:21 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bethesda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6022, navy blue, period correct 427 SO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
I believe Jay Leno's Cobra has a cammer in it.
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It does. Nice video of it on his site.
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01-24-2010, 11:28 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Freedomia,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Coupe,Blue w/white stripes SB; Roadster, Blue w/white stripes BB w/2-4s; SPF installer/Hot Rod-Custom Car builder
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With his severence package, I think Conan can afford one now,LOL.
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01-24-2010, 01:33 PM
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Location: Sacramento,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 707, 446ci FE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodz428
With his severence package, I think Conan can afford one now,LOL.
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I dunno. You PRICED a cammer lately? 
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01-24-2010, 11:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Full Throttle Al
This is Cammer #589 in CSX 4083:
Alan Sorkey
Shreveport, LA
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This engine speaks volumes!!
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01-24-2010, 03:28 PM
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Location: Northern,
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Cobra Make, Engine: LA Exotics
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Full Throttle Al
This is Cammer #589 in CSX 4083:
Alan Sorkey
Shreveport, LA
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I quoted this just so I could see it again. Bloody brilliant. I hate you, you lucky son of a gun. Well done. 
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01-24-2010, 02:49 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1969 Mustang Fastback Pro-Street, constantly changing ongoing project!
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$32,500 for a Cammer. 
I used to pound the snot out of an original one until it became worth to much.
I can abuse a few FE & 385 motors for that much money.
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01-24-2010, 07:09 PM
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Location: HomerGlen,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates, 427 dual quad
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So, how many cammers did they make?
Alan, you post that it is #589. Is there a registery for these eng.
I wonder how many are sitting in a corner under a work bench somewere.
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01-25-2010, 04:50 AM
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Alan is right on the money with that number. You would think that with an estimate of 1000 to 1100 being produced you would see more of them, but through attrition there is very few left. They were used up. The drag strip decimated their numbers.
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01-25-2010, 06:07 AM
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How did you get your motor and how long have you had it?
As rare as it is, I'm sure at aprox. 1100 units made a good number of them have seen destruction from racing. With that said........a lot of old racers keep most of there old parts around there shops somewhere.
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01-25-2010, 07:50 AM
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Many were shipped to drag racing teams. As I recall, a ford guy at the Romeo engine plant said there were a little over 2000, but almost 400 of them were internal.
Wow, that was years ago.
I saw two used as part of a coffee table. The comment was "Those are part of my retirement." As I remember, they were complete.
It was 1975. N&S speed on Wordward had two in the back. D. Nickles ( spelled wrong I am sure ) was selling all but the intake and carbs for $1200.
What a trip!

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01-25-2010, 07:59 AM
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I saw one that was in a 1967 Cougar that was raced at some of the tracks in this area. He had to have a long track though as it just wouldn't run well on the short ovals. I have also seen two that are in speed bots that show up at most of the major car shows.
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01-25-2010, 08:02 AM
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I did the same thing with a 460 PI and made a table in the back of the Man Cave.
I have never seen one. With an 8ft plus chain up front, it must sound like it has a blower on it.
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01-25-2010, 04:37 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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What's interesting to me is that about 4-5 months ago there was an original Ford 427 SOHC for sale, all-iron original with standard bore asking $32K. Now the new crate Cammers are coming out and I've seen one priced at $32,500 and KC's at $40K. They made so few of the originals and they're worth A LOT of money, but the their new brethren are more expensive, which appears similar to the prices of an original sideoiler 427 versus an all-aluminum aftermarket FE.
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01-25-2010, 06:27 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Shreveport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4083, NOS 427 SOHC, serial number 589. Dyno'd in 1967 at 629HP with single 4v 560 Holley. Now with 4 Webers.
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My Cobra project took almost 25 years to complete. I found the SOHC motor in an ad in the back of AutoWeek in 1997. A Ford enthusiast bought the motor in the late 60's from Holman Moody and it sat, unopened, in the original shipping crate for almost 30 years in his garage until I bought it. Dyno tag still attached, 629HP in 1967 with single 4v, 615 cfm.
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01-25-2010, 09:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Full Throttle Al
My Cobra project took almost 25 years to complete. I found the SOHC motor in an ad in the back of AutoWeek in 1997. A Ford enthusiast bought the motor in the late 60's from Holman Moody and it sat, unopened, in the original shipping crate for almost 30 years in his garage until I bought it. Dyno tag still attached, 629HP in 1967 with single 4v, 615 cfm.
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That's better than most barn-find stories. 
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01-25-2010, 10:19 PM
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Great stories! Brings back memories about how I got into Ford FE's in the first place.
When I was young(er), back in the mid seventies in the Seattle area, the guy I worked for was a total Ford racer and connected to all the dealerships with the "Muscle Parts". When Ford pulled the plug, he got word from his buddies at the dealerships to bring a big truck. I helped him load up shelves full of everything you can think of: tunnel port heads and manifolds of every configuration, lots of heads & manifolds of all sorts, 100 or more cams (new in the tubes), cranks, lifters, springs, gaskets etc. I mean pallet racks full of stuff!! You get the idea.
We also loaded up one moving truck with crate motors from Ford, all wrapped in plastic and still with the shipping tags. Three complete cammers, a bunch of sideoilers, long-blocks, short-blocks, service blocks, and some aluminum motors that said "NASCAR" on them. There were also three Boss 429's. I remember that either the Boss 429's or the Cammers had tags with "T" or "S" on them. My boss had told me that this is how they identified the "racing" and "street" versions.
We loaded all of this stuff in a big building out near Puyallup, WA. The guy was a slippery one, and he dissapeared some time after, leaving many Ford folks looking for him. He owed me several weeks pay too. Some things you never forget, good or bad. Ahhhh, the memories....
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