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Old 01-31-2010, 08:06 AM
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All the above answers are good.

But, in this context, I think you have to define what your own meaning of "most accurate" is.

I think there are different levels of this definition.

Visually accurate or dimensionally accurate?

"Accurate look" from 50 ft away? ...10 ft away? ...up close with a ruler?

Accurate "from the top?" ...or "on a lift?"

Accurate-looking to the "general public?" ( ) ...or to the informed purist?

"Accuracy" can have a sliding scale from replicating to recreating.

Most of the popular brands have some degree of accuracy...

...the answer to "most accurate" depends on your own eye-filter and the level of detail incorporated by the builder.
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:14 AM
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Ron is right. When you get it done and you cruise to the local show or the Dairy Queen, people are going to stare and point no matter who's car you choose to build. This sight is a close group of people and friends that love their cars and are passionate about the brand they chose. You can look at the cars people recommend and the cars they own and usually they are the same. I am guilty of that. Do your research as Patrick suggested and go visit a few manufactures. You will know it when you see it, then buy that one.

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Old 01-31-2010, 08:16 AM
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:26 AM
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I agree with Ron,
Definition of accurate is paramount!

Interior? (Gauges, dash, switch's, seats, pedals etc....) Smiths and Lucas = $$$
Suspension? (SAI style versus other engineered type) SAI versus ERA is night and day.......
Frame? (Box frame versus 3" or 4" tubes) Round is accurate..still vary in design FFR, KMS, SAI, HiTech etc...
Body? (Ally versus glass and shape) Obvious....
Motor/trans? (Date coded) Accurate displacement and date code will cost bundles....
Wheels? (Mag versus Ally) Ally wheels can be $1000 however Mag wheels will x4 that price.
Accessories? (Mirrors, wipers, latch's etc....) A standard rear view replica mirror can cost $30 however a Talbot will be >$150

Each step taken towards an accurate 60's car will cost $$$$$
There is no cheaper accurate cobra under my definition......

As Mickmate and I discussed in 20yrs the accurate bar will be set by the 4000 and 6000 cars, might therefore be a great starting point unless you start a custom one off build.

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Old 01-31-2010, 08:29 AM
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When I was researching kit cars in 1997 to 2000, someone told me, to keep from being sued, you have to be at least 10% different. Maybe this is why a lot of kits are a little different from the one they copied. I have heard that some of the molds used today are third or forth generation molds. Copies of Copies of Copies.

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...to keep from being sued, you have to be at least 10% different...
Now I'm not a Shelby basher, but this comment made me laugh...
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:35 AM
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Yes I know, but I just repeated what I was told. I think the guy that told me that had been sued by Shelby.

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When I was researching kit cars in 1997 to 2000, someone told me, to keep from being sued, you have to be at least 10% different. Maybe this is why a lot of kits are a little different from the one they copied. I have heard that some of the molds used today are third or forth generation molds. Copies of Copies of Copies.

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A Kirkham can be ordered with original style suspension, etc. (at extra cost). I'm not sure how you would measure the 10% difference, but such a Kirkham would certainly not be that much different than an original.
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All the above answers are good.

But, in this context, I think you have to define what your own meaning of "most accurate" is.

I think there are different levels of this definition.

Visually accurate or dimensionally accurate?

"Accurate look" from 50 ft away? ...10 ft away? ...up close with a ruler?

Accurate "from the top?" ...or "on a lift?"

Accurate-looking to the "general public?" ( ) ...or to the informed purist?

"Accuracy" can have a sliding scale from replicating to recreating.

Most of the popular brands have some degree of accuracy...

...the answer to "most accurate" depends on your own eye-filter and the level of detail incorporated by the builder.
In a nutshell this says it all! No matter how accurate you feel your choice is someone will have an opinion.So good luck in your search for perfection.
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