Complete Domination?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Gunner

You could paint "SHELBY COBRA" on the side of a convertible Pinto and six out of ten people would ask you if it was a real one. Let's face it, your average passerby, even in a controlled venue like an open car show, is pretty clueless about the details.

You're giving the other 40% too much credit.

You could also paint Corvette on the side of a Pinto and the majority will ask "What year Corvette do you own?"

What's the moral? People are stupid.

[Gunner]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

What's the moral? People are stupid.

I wouldn't disagree, but not being able to discern one Cobra-ish vehicle from another doesn't necessarily mean stupidity. I'm reasonably well read and versed on the topic, over 30+ years, and I managed to make a stupid misidentification in my early days here on the forum.

My point was that there's a difference between what Joe Sixpack might think of one of these cars and what a knowledgeable (read: owner) observer might think. Joe going "Wow! Cool!" to the most ill-built, butt-ugly Street Beasts POS doesn't validate it.

[Silverback51]

Personally I will complement another persons car, because no matter what, it's their pride and joy. Some give me crap about mine because it's yellow. I happen to like it, and it's different.

Considering how proud most owners are of their cars, you may as well call their wifes/girlfriends fat ugly pigs while you are at it, because it's about the same.

[CobraEd]

I agree 100% with Silverback.


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[Mark Thompson]

I will weigh in on this discussion having both a Kirkham and an FFR in the garage. Both are terrific in their own way.

I think what FFR does is fantastic. We built ours as my son's high school project car. They have great technical support and a phenomenal array of aftermarket product available through it's volume and shared DNA with the Mustang. We both learned a great deal as well as spent several years together in the garage. After we built it we spent several years refining it for sport street use as well as active campaigning in SCCA autocross. Max used the experience as the subject of his college essay, attended Stanford, and is about to start his third year of medical school. Eight years later the FFR still interests me, and it can turn top 10 times in the San Francisco region autocross.

The Kirkham is magnificent. Their workmanship is exceptional and the presence of the car is as amazing as any car I have ever owned. The Kirkham is more serious, and you would think twice before going 10/10ths through set of cones, or experimenting with it casually.

They are horses for courses, as the British say. I strongly recommend one of each.

Mark