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Historybuff 11-14-2010 05:36 PM

427 Cobra Willment 427 Cobra ghia book alive and well
 
I was glad to see in a British magazine the other day that
the Willment/Ghia 427 Cobra coupe built for Sir John Willment with a Ghia built alloy body atop an unused 427 Cobra chassis from back in the day is out and about, appearing at events. I know someday someone will lift the body off and put a 427 Cobra body on but it's fun to see this much power in such a beautiful body. The website that pictures it is
http://www.secondstrike.com/Coupe/OtherCoupes.htm

FatBoy 11-15-2010 12:14 AM

I've seen it a couple of times at events, namely the Silverstone Classic, held each July and it is a good looking car, although the rear is a little less resolved in my opinion.
I seriously doubt the Ghia body will ever be replaced by a Cobra body as it now has genuine value, appeal and uniqueness in its own right.

Paul

Trevor Legate 11-15-2010 04:27 AM

SIR John Willment? He'd be delighted (but sadly now deceased) Not thinking of Sir John Whitmore are we....? :-)

The car now has the owner it so desperately needed and over the course of three years he pretty much went through the car and sorted it himself. It now drives perfectly and even handles! Not even a sign of overheating...!!! The appalling 70s dash the Willment mechanics lobbed inside has been replaced by a proper 427-style dash and the steering relocated to fit. It's now a useable car and it'll be a cold day in hell before that body gets removed to turn it into a Cobra!!! Not gonna happen - this car is a one-off and if we ever need to get down to discussing the grubby issue of 'money' (no, it's not for sale!!) then I'd value it way in excess of a mere 427 Cobra. I love it - and especialy the much neater and tidier rear end, handmade by a liitle ol' man in his garden shed - it's called craftsmanship

Justin O'Rourke 11-15-2010 06:02 AM

I could be wrong, but I think that I have pictures I took of that car when it was just a body on a chassis at the old Holman Moody shop in Charlotte, NC back around 1987. Some guy took a mold off of it and made a couple of fiberglass bodies from it. I remember a red small block something like it being there also. In the red car, a small panel lifted up in the front of the footbox. Glad to hear that the 427 body has been built. Regards.

Justin O'Rourke 11-15-2010 06:31 AM

After looking at the web site with the Ghia Coupe, I realize that the Ghia is not the coupe that I was referring to. The cars that I looked at, had the look of a Daytona Coupe. Regards.

86Sebring 11-15-2010 08:07 AM

I wonder why no company is replicating the Ghia coupe. The looks of it are just stunning, I would love to put one in my garage, next to the Lola T70, McLaren M8 and the Cro-Sal Cheetah ( hey I can dream, can't I? )

Steve Cassani 11-15-2010 09:35 AM

"I love it - and especialy the much neater and tidier rear end, handmade by a liitle ol' man in his garden shed - it's called craftsmanship."

I believe an authority on the matter has attributed the original work to winos working under a bridge.

Trevor Legate 11-15-2010 10:27 AM

Ah, the legend of the winos under the bridge again! You just can't beat a good fairytale can you?

Mark IV 11-15-2010 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevor Legate (Post 1089891)
Ah, the legend of the winos under the bridge again! You just can't beat a good fairytale can you?

Trevor,

Do you mean the Brownlowe Sheet metal Company was NOT under a bridge and staffed by winos?

xlr8tr 11-15-2010 11:19 AM

does anyone have a link to more/better pictures of the one off green cobra coupe? That looks stunning!!

FatBoy 11-15-2010 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevor Legate (Post 1089843)
I love it - and especialy the much neater and tidier rear end, handmade by a liitle ol' man in his garden shed

I'm not suggesting the rear end is ugly or even unattractive Trevor, I just don't feel that it fits entirely comfortably with the front, which looks terrific.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3487/...028f89e9_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2447/...8751a94b_b.jpg

As the saying goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :)

I would still love it in my garage though and it is odd to think that it was pretty much unloved and unwanted for so long.

Paul

Buzz 11-15-2010 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatBoy (Post 1089899)
I'm not suggesting the rear end is ugly or even unattractive Trevor, I just don't feel that it fits entirely comfortably with the front, which looks terrific.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3487/...028f89e9_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2447/...8751a94b_b.jpg

As the saying goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :)

I would still love it in my garage though and it is odd to think that it was pretty much unloved and unwanted for so long.

Paul

With an arse like that, I for one am not at all surprised no one loved or wanted the poor bugger until it's value and provenance became a consideration. Unique, significant and interesting, yes, but (from the rear) fuuuuuuug-ly! :LOL:

Trevor Legate 11-15-2010 01:22 PM

In photos, yes, it's...large. Oddly, in the metal it's a very different story. In my opinion. Oh well, lets write off all 22 Ghia Supersonics then. But in its time, it was a unique piece of cutting-edge design - remember we're judging it some 50 years on!! Just imagine seeing a car that looked like that cruising down the road in 1955

Rick - so we're talking about the Brownlowe winos?? That's different, never worked a sober day in their lives, as everyone knows ;-)

A-Snake 11-15-2010 01:53 PM

I agree the Ghia Supersonic is beautiful in the flesh, however the required lengthened body work to fit the CSX3055 chassis is ahh...(add your own word) ;)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_NCTKUEHu-jQ/Rz...upersonic..jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3487/...028f89e9_b.jpg

ERA Chas 11-15-2010 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevor Legate (Post 1089843)

The appalling 70s dash the Willment mechanics lobbed inside has been replaced by a proper 427-style dash and the steering relocated to fit.

Trevor, please tolerate a few questions as you have first hand knowledge of the car.

Is it built on an unaltered 90" wheel base chassis? Please describe the steering alteration- do you mean to right hand drive?

I ask because it appears as though Ghia has extended the hood opening to near the radiator position but maintained the overhangs front and rear. Is the car also 156" LOA as a Cobra?

Thanks,

Trevor Legate 11-15-2010 02:08 PM

As far as I'm aware the chassis was never altered, it was the body that was 'persuaded' to fit (bet they had fun with that)
Steering was RHD from the off, it was the steering column that was modified to allow the wheel to be the correct distance from both dash and driver, plus the angle was modified so it steers better - one of those silly things that was never really sorted before.
Don't know the length, never measured it, no reason to. Just went for a long drive and took some snaps. Nice.

ERA Chas 11-15-2010 03:13 PM

Thanks for the explanation.

Excaliber 11-15-2010 11:29 PM

I was just looking at those skinny tires thinking they don't have a snow balls chance in hell of surviving WOT with the 427 (or even a 289). :)

StewbieC 11-16-2010 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlr8tr (Post 1089897)
does anyone have a link to more/better pictures of the one off green cobra coupe? That looks stunning!!


I think you are on about A98 the AC Coupe.

http://www.the289register.com/phpBB3....php?f=2&t=898

A couple of the guys from our little club went up to Scotland to see it last year.


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