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12-18-2010, 06:44 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Looking back at some old pictures of CSX2136 it seemed to have FIA's and not the kidney beans also red and not black? I don't have my original registry to reference, a friend is using it....
Hard to say what is OEM and what is not as these cars take several changes over the years and bodies, motors, color, wheels and appointments changed. A friend of mine owned one of the 427 comp cars and thought that it had been fixed, restored, 7 times. Probably as a light ally car with a big engine on a race track is not the formula for lasting very long.
I love the kidney beans, hard to find and when you do they are a little expensive. I also don't think they come in anything other than 6 pin?
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12-18-2010, 06:53 AM
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12-18-2010, 06:54 AM
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12-18-2010, 08:47 AM
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CSX2136 (which is pictured above), CSX2137, and CSX2138 all raced originally with Kidney Bean wheels. As they moved into later '63 and the '64 seasons, they were all raced at various times with FIA wheels because they were more readily available and were wider. Once they started putting alloy "comp" girling brakes on cars (fia and cutback door team USRRC cars) the Kidney Beans could no longer be fit on the car because there were clearance issues. Kidney Beans have a lot of structure on the inside and were balanced by screwing washers to the backs of the wheels. Since I am running alloy comp girling brakes on my repro comp car, I needed to have PS adjust the backspacing to accomodate the big brakes.
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12-18-2010, 10:00 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Apopka,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Building 289 Lemans / FFR mkIV chassis w/ Bruce Chervenak
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Guys, thanks much for the feedback.
Allen, not sure about wheels yet. Trying to make up my mind.
Mike, I'm glad you shared that about clearance. I had no idea. Was the clearance problem radial or on the face or both?
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12-18-2010, 10:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmimac351
Guys, thanks much for the feedback.
Mike, I'm glad you shared that about clearance. I had no idea. Was the clearance problem radial or on the face or both?
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What kind of brakes are you using? Assuming it is something more modern, you won't have clearance issues. Just tell Phil Schmidt what you are using. Girling Comp brakes are very large, much fatter than most modern brake options. Phil will space them accordingly.
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12-18-2010, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobra Pack
What kind of brakes are you using? Assuming it is something more modern, you won't have clearance issues. Just tell Phil Schmidt what you are using. Girling Comp brakes are very large, much fatter than most modern brake options. Phil will space them accordingly.
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Good to hear, thanks Mike. I am either going to use an OE mustang or low profile Wilwood caliper on the front and either the OE T-bird caliper or Wilwood on the rear. A rear Wilwood will require some bracket figuring and the piston used in the t-bird seems to be a good choice. The brakes on this car are going to be based on math and what works rather than who made it and doesn't.
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