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stephen_becker 01-18-2011 06:32 PM

Carroll Shelby & the 50th Anniversary CSX 8000 Cobra
 
This car was introduced, today, at Barrett-Jackson in Scottsdale, AZ

http://www.goplanetcobra.com/50th-an...ary-cobra.html

tkb289 01-18-2011 11:07 PM

Very nice looking car and beautiful color combination.

Interesting that the aluminum body car is almost twice the price of the glass car. Aside from the body itself and paint preparation, are there differences in the structural construction or fabrication of the car between glass and aluminum ?

PANAVIA 01-18-2011 11:25 PM

nope. same car.

STL Mark 01-18-2011 11:45 PM

Really cool. Price does not include engine and tranny I'm guessing.

Boy does this muddy the waters a bit on the big question - IS IT REAL?

No matter - nice looking.

mickmate 01-19-2011 06:16 AM

That thing is a beauty. The aluminum bodies use the same chassis platform but a completely different birdcage to support the body. There are big differences in the cowl hoops, door hinges etc. There is a lot more work to hang and align all the panels, wrap the skin around the tubes etc on an ally body hence the price difference.

CSX3018 01-19-2011 06:33 AM

A rose by any other name is still a Rose.
 
Hello
Planet Cobra
Stephen Becker

$134,995 aluminum bodied 50th Anniversary Cobra CSX8000 is Still
a KIRKHAM 289 KMS/Street slab side.

lineslinger 01-19-2011 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSX3018 (Post 1103777)
Hello
Planet Cobra
Stephen Becker

$134,995 aluminum bodied 50th Anniversary Cobra CSX8000 is Still
a KIRKHAM 289 KMS/Street slab side.

Yup.
$134,995 base price, for a Kirkham, renamed Shelby, without an engine or drive train...wow...such a deal.:cool:
I want some of what they're smoking.

lineslinger 01-19-2011 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STL Mark (Post 1103750)
Boy does this muddy the waters a bit on the big question - IS IT REAL?

If I commission an artist to paint a copy of a Matisse, then put it on the market with the same asking price as the original painting, are they then of equal value?

N2VENOM 01-19-2011 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSX3018 (Post 1103777)
Hello
Planet Cobra
Stephen Becker

$134,995 aluminum bodied 50th Anniversary Cobra CSX8000 is Still
a KIRKHAM 289 KMS/Street slab side.

Is this statement fact? Are these Kirkhams?

lineslinger 01-19-2011 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N2VENOM (Post 1103791)
Is this statement fact? Are these Kirkhams?

There have been a whole lot of threads offered concerning your question...try a search to gain some insight into your question.;)

NFLDMNBB 01-19-2011 08:54 AM

In my opinion it only takes one buyer thinking the Shelby name is worth the extra cost. Fact is it really is a Shelby, it will be in the registry and to many that means something. A little scotch will just help it along. There are still many out there with very deep pockets and the cost is relative. It helps that there are few friends by their side full of scotch too.

Roger

N2VENOM 01-19-2011 09:04 AM

With all do respect to my forum friends, I'm more interested in facts. Rumors and speculation can cause harm to potential buyers, Shelby, Kirkham etc. I'll call David and get the 411.

Dangerous Doug 01-19-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lineslinger (Post 1103788)
If I commission an artist to paint a copy of a Matisse, then put it on the market with the same asking price as the original painting, are they then of equal value?

Well, first you'd have to sell it to Matisse, and then have him endorse the painting. He would then sell it as his own. You'd have to be quite the artist to pull this off.

I think your comment says more about the craftsmanship of the Kirkham Bro's than about Shelby.

DD

lineslinger 01-19-2011 09:31 AM

Indeed it does.

RodKnock 01-19-2011 09:48 AM

Darren, unless David's byline, or whatever you call it that's under his name when he posts, is wrong, then Kirkham supplies the aluminum bodies to Shelby, though they do have red interiors and the 50th anniversary emblems.

__________________
"David Kirkham, President Kirkham Motorsports
Manufacturer Aluminum Body Kit Cars and supplier to Shelby* for their CSX4000, CSX7000, and CSX8000 289 and 427 Cobra
*Kirkham Motorsports is not affiliated with Ford or Carroll Shelby or any of their trademarks.
"Fear is the thief of dreams."
"

ACademic 01-19-2011 10:37 AM

If people have the money to pay considerably more for the "prominence" of owning a Shelby versus a Kirkham, then why should anyone care? At this price level it really doesn't matter to those with that kind of money to throw around (at least to most of them; some are more sensible). Again, the Speed Channel coveage of the BJ auctions always talk about prominence when it comes to owning a Shelby vs. any other replica. And I think they have made that point well known and in some enthusiast's eyes it still holds water.

RodKnock 01-19-2011 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACademic (Post 1103811)
Again, the Speed Channel coveage of the BJ auctions always talk about prominence when it comes to owning a Shelby vs. any other replica.

Do you mean "provenance"?

1ntCobra 01-19-2011 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1103805)
Darren, unless David's byline, or whatever you call it that's under his name when he posts, is wrong, then Kirkham supplies the aluminum bodies to Shelby, though they do have red interiors and the 50th anniversary emblems.

__________________
"David Kirkham, President Kirkham Motorsports
Manufacturer Aluminum Body Kit Cars and supplier to Shelby* for their CSX4000, CSX7000, and CSX8000 289 and 427 Cobra
*Kirkham Motorsports is not affiliated with Ford or Carroll Shelby or any of their trademarks.
"Fear is the thief of dreams."
"

Well there is a bit of a difference. Kirkham supplies the frame and body to Shelby specifications. Shelby adds their non-billet suspension and other bits. Shelby also paints their cars.

I wonder if the Shelby small block cars have the 3 inch frame with the buggy springs or if they are like the "hybrid" small block cars from Kirkham with the 4 inch frames with coil overs.

There are certainly people who buy Acuras over Hondas or Lexus over Toyota. I have a Honda. ;)

RodKnock 01-19-2011 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra (Post 1103819)
Well there is a bit of a difference. Kirkham supplies the frame and body to Shelby specifications. Shelby adds their non-billet suspension and other bits. Shelby also paints their cars.

I wonder if the Shelby small block cars have the 3 inch frame with the buggy springs or if they are like the "hybrid" small block cars from Kirkham with the 4 inch frames with coil overs.

There are certainly people who buy Acuras over Hondas or Lexus over Toyota. I have a Honda. ;)

According to the 50th anniversary ad, the Shelby frames are the 3" variety. Kirkham can supply either the 3" or the 4" hybrid to their customers.

RodKnock 01-19-2011 12:10 PM

A few things that I noticed that the CSX8000's have and that the "base" Kirkham 289 does not:

1. Black paint job (with I'm sure a lot of body prep or at least I hope so)
2. Red interior
3. Spline hubs and wire wheels
4. Upgrade to Wilton Wool carpeting
5. Anniversary emblems of course
6. Leaf springs, non billet/hybrid suspension
7. All the bright work such as the grill and bumpers
8. Floor and trunk mats
9. Shelby provenance and prominence :LOL:


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