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The " X " seems to depend on which book you read. Like a lot of things from the 60's it's a gray area.
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You may be thinking about the present day terminology used by SA for their "CSX" cars. |
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I went back and looked up "CSX" in some of my books about Shelby and Cobra's and in one on one interviews and in "as dictated by Carroll Shelby" he states the "X" is for eXperimental. In these they also quoted from in house memos at Shelby American about the "X" stands for eXperimental. I know AC Cars LTD noted the "X" stands for eXport, but we all know AC was a subcontractor to Shelby American. Shelby American is the manufacturer of record. So who do you believe?? Like I said a gray area.
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Bill S. PS: Might I suggest you pick up a correct copy of the Cobra registry as it will put things in greater (and accurate) detail on this and every other chassis to leave AC cars Ltd........ |
To be more specific, 'X' related to left hand drive cars while 'B' was used for right hand drive. Cobras sold to LHD countries would be COX or CSX. Those sold to RHD countries would be COB. Remember there were around 90 leaf spring and coil spring Cobras, of the total production of 998, that were sold by AC Cars directly to customers. These were prefixed by COX or COB.
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What about the type 65 Super coupe CSX3027 ? Right hand drive. That would seem to be part of the gray area in the serial numbering system between Ac-Shelby American and Ford.
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I am reading "Shelby Cobra Fifty Years" by Colin Comer foreword by Carroll Shelby
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Also " The Complete Book of Shelby Automobiles:Cobras, Mustangs,and Super Snakes". Plus " The Cobra Story"
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Just to get things started again. I have looked in my extensive library on Cobra's and they all agree that CSX 2000 stood for Carroll Shelby Experimental!!! ALL. So what are we left with, Shelby American always referred to a CSX Carroll Shelby Experimental Ford in all in office memos refrred as CSX as Carroll Sheby Experimental . So we are left AC ,who produced the frame and body (but had no part in making it a great race car or legendary street car)for CSX 2000 but after that just happened to fit there serial numbers????? Yeah right. AC wanted to keep there hand in. But even they farmed out the bodies in the 60's , So what are we left with SAAC, so when started in 1976 was a bunch of Hot Rodders who had no connection with Shelby-Ford-AC. And they do a great job, Shelby was gone and Ford wanted nothing to do with Cobra (gas guzzler, insurance nightmare). So what are we left with 2 out of 3. So CSX stands for Carroll Shelby Experimental Boom Done.
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Oh brother! I smell baiting going on looking for an argument. Give it a rest.
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What about our fellow Cobra historian Wally Wyss? If you check out his book, you will find that CSX stands for Carroll Shelby Experimental and the first Cobra's serial number is CSX0001.
It is odd that there are a number of books that apparently mistakenly state that the first Cobra's serial number is CSX2000? :eek: :confused: :JEKYLHYDE |
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For example, the general rule was that an AC engined Ace sold in Britain would have had the prefix 'AE', whereas one exported 'AEX'. Similarly a Bristol engined Ace sold in Britain would have had the prefix 'BE', whereas one exported 'BEX' A Ford engined Ace 2.6 sold in Britain would have had the prefix 'RS', whereas one exported 'RSX' This principle was continued for the Cobra, 'COB' for cars sold in the UK as complete vehicles, 'COX' for cars exported as complete vehicles outside the US, 'CSX' cars exported to Carroll Shelby under contract. Here are a few photos of the AC Ace 2.6 built by AC in 1961 that, to use your own words, prove that AC 'had no part in making a legendary street car' :LOL: http://www.autosportdesigns.com/acca...1000-19818.jpg http://www.autosportdesigns.com/acca...1000-19821.jpg http://www.autosportdesigns.com/acca...1000-19826.jpg http://www.autosportdesigns.com/acca...1000-19828.jpg You might also wish to contact Alan Turner, now in his 90s who was the chief engineer of AC Cars in the 1960s. I'm sure he'll be amused to be told that he didn't carry out a significant part of the development work of the leaf sprung Cobras. **) |
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