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[LMH]

Bob
I think you should contact SAAC and tell them about the car. See what they have to say. I'm just having a hard time with this chassis being 3063.
Here's some contact info: SAAC - Contact
Larry

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by LMH

Bob
I think you should contact SAAC and tell them about the car. See what they have to say. I'm just having a hard time with this chassis being 3063.
Here's some contact info: SAAC - Contact
Larry

Larry,

Nedsel (here on this thread) is the SAAC Cobra Registrar, believe me, he already knows more about this car than the OP.

Bill S.

[Thor maine]

I think if it can really be proven that it is chassis #CSX3063,which means it was made by AC Ltd under contract for Shelby American,designed by Ford for Shelby American. I think you have to say it is a Real 1964 or 1965 (whatever it would be)Shelby!! Remember CXS the X was experimental that would make this a Shelby 427 that was experimented on with a body change. Its value will not be as high as well documented from the factory Shelby 427SC but it is a real Shelby 427 and can rightfully claim the Shelby magic and value. If it can be proven it is #CXS3063 and that is a big if???

[A-Snake]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

Remember CXS the X was experimental that would make this a Shelby 427 that was experimented on with a body change...

The 'X' in CSX or COX or AEX or BEX etc used by AC Cars stands for 'export', not experimental.

[LMH]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

I think if it can really be proven that it is chassis #CSX3063,which means it was made by AC Ltd under contract for Shelby American,designed by Ford for Shelby American. I think you have to say it is a Real 1964 or 1965 (whatever it would be)Shelby!! Remember CXS the X was experimental that would make this a Shelby 427 that was experimented on with a body change. Its value will not be as high as well documented from the factory Shelby 427SC but it is a real Shelby 427 and can rightfully claim the Shelby magic and value. If it can be proven it is #CXS3063 and that is a big if???

What...?
Larry

[Thor maine]

The " X " seems to depend on which book you read. Like a lot of things from the 60's it's a gray area.

[A-Snake]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

The " X " seems to depend on which book you read. Like a lot of things from the 60's it's a gray area.

Nope, not gray at all. You can review it in the SAAC Cobra Registry and the ACOC Registry.

You may be thinking about the present day terminology used by SA for their "CSX" cars.

[LMH]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Larry,

Nedsel (here on this thread) is the SAAC Cobra Registrar, believe me, he already knows more about this car than the OP.

Bill S.

Yeah, you're right Bill. I was thinking that if word came down from the almighty (SAAC... Ned...etc), it might help the OP and this cars current owner as to what it really is. They might see it as a little more "offical" so to speak.

Larry

[Thor maine]

I went back and looked up "CSX" in some of my books about Shelby and Cobra's and in one on one interviews and in "as dictated by Carroll Shelby" he states the "X" is for eXperimental. In these they also quoted from in house memos at Shelby American about the "X" stands for eXperimental. I know AC Cars LTD noted the "X" stands for eXport, but we all know AC was a subcontractor to Shelby American. Shelby American is the manufacturer of record. So who do you believe?? Like I said a gray area.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

I went back and looked up "CSX" in some of my books about Shelby and Cobra's and in one on one interviews and in "as dictated by Carroll Shelby" he states the "X" is for eXperimental. In these they also quoted from in house memos at Shelby American about the "X" stands for eXperimental. I know AC Cars LTD noted the "X" stands for eXport, but we all know AC was a subcontractor to Shelby American. Shelby American is the manufacturer of record. So who do you believe?? Like I said a gray area.

Who to believe, SAAC, why, because they have the actual notes, importation paperwork, engineering records and more directly from Shelby Inc. They do not rely on the memory of one man but the actual factory records from that time period. SHEESH, let's face it, whatever you are relying on is incorrect and move on already.

Bill S.

PS: Might I suggest you pick up a correct copy of the Cobra registry as it will put things in greater (and accurate) detail on this and every other chassis to leave AC cars Ltd........

[A-Snake]

To be more specific, 'X' related to left hand drive cars while 'B' was used for right hand drive. Cobras sold to LHD countries would be COX or CSX. Those sold to RHD countries would be COB. Remember there were around 90 leaf spring and coil spring Cobras, of the total production of 998, that were sold by AC Cars directly to customers. These were prefixed by COX or COB.

[Thor maine]

What about the type 65 Super coupe CSX3027 ? Right hand drive. That would seem to be part of the gray area in the serial numbering system between Ac-Shelby American and Ford.

[A-Snake]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

I went back and looked up "CSX" in some of my books about Shelby and Cobra's and in one on one interviews and in "as dictated by Carroll Shelby" he states the "X" is for eXperimental. In these they also quoted from in house memos at Shelby American about the "X" stands for eXperimental. I know AC Cars LTD noted the "X" stands for eXport, but we all know AC was a subcontractor to Shelby American. Shelby American is the manufacturer of record. So who do you believe?? Like I said a gray area.

You said you had Colin's Book SHELBY, The complete book of Shelby Automobiles. Take a look at page 24, it explains the terminology of COB, COX