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fordracing65 04-28-2013 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bernica (Post 1241813)
Huh? We only use Berber in the high-end places. Many different grades up to the wool "hybrid". If someone ran a Wilton on one ,then I stand corrected. But nobody wants it. Also, I have built a few casinos and hotels and trust me, that isn't Wilton. my 2 c
Google can be your best friend also, I worked at 2 Casinos in Vegas and both used Wilton Wool... It's funny nobody wants it but ERA charges a premium price for Wilton and the Kirkhams use it exclusively in there cars, but a Kirkham I guess isn't a high end Cobra...:LOL::LOL::LOL: Plus when I went to college in NC it's the furniture capital of the USA, Furniture Market every year is held there in High Point, NC and Wilton carpet is the best of the best just check the prices on it at market it's unreal the price people pay for it. Put Berber in your cobra or Astro turf, it's your car...

lippy 04-28-2013 09:22 AM
I sort of want it, but it seems super pricey. I'm already paying $650 for standard carpet plus $200 for trunk carpet, and ERA estimates the wool is an additional $1000. That's a ton of dough for carpet. I thought the difference would be less

fordracing65 04-28-2013 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by lippy (Post 1241852)
I sort of want it, but it seems super pricey. I'm already paying $650 for standard carpet plus $200 for trunk carpet, and ERA estimates the wool is an additional $1000. That's a ton of dough for carpet. I thought the difference would be less
I think you will be happy with the synthetic, remember your engine is the jewel of your car from what I remember, anyways you wouldn't want people to soil themselves on the Wilton when those 600 plus horses kick in...:3DSMILE:

lippy 04-29-2013 10:12 AM
I spoke with a few different carpet suppliers. They mostly agreed that black Wilton is likely to fade in the sun, and velour may be a good upgrade from standard nylon. Fading shouldn't be a problem with the velour.

The cost for velour is $99/yard (60" wide), the cost of the Wilton III is $105/yard (42" wide), and nylon is typically about $50/yard (width varies). I ordered samples.

Do you think velour would look out of place on this type of car?

fordracing65 04-29-2013 10:42 AM
What you have to remember it's not the material so much, it's the way it is woven, meaning Wilton which is a weaving process makes it desirable, there is looped or piled which is a different weave, Velour would look very nice, especially in black, just make sure it is woven in the correct way, a lot of wool these days has UV protection in it, some shops will offer this with there wool, and you need to spray scotch guard on either carpet for extra protection, the samples will help a lot with your decision...

patrickt 04-29-2013 10:47 AM
Man, if every aspect of your build gets the agonizing scrutiny that this carpet thing is getting it will take years to get that car on the road.:LOL:

fordracing65 04-29-2013 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1242008)
Man, if every aspect of your build gets the agonizing scrutiny that this carpet thing is getting it will take years to get that car on the road.:LOL:
Just think if he can't decide between single or double roll bars...:LOL:**);)

lippy 04-29-2013 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fordracing65 (Post 1242009)
Just think if he can't decide between single or double roll bars...:LOL:**);)
It is true that every aspect of my build receives this level of scrutiny. I told Peter at ERA this morning that his job isn't easy. But the roll bar decision was an easy one.

Bernica 04-29-2013 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by fordracing65 (Post 1242009)
Just think if he can't decide between single or double roll bars...:LOL:**);)
Waiting for the solid vs hydraulic cam debate next!:3DSMILE:

RodKnock 04-29-2013 11:30 AM
Did we discuss the glove box or no glove box dash decision?

Or what about 0.82 OD versus the 0.64 OD Tremec debate?

There's always the "Which way should the jack hooks face?" question too. We have much to cover still. :LOL:

patrickt 04-29-2013 11:32 AM
Not to mention whether he should paint his wheels that beautiful shade of beige that is getting rave reviews from owners and onlookers alike over on that other thread....

fordracing65 04-29-2013 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lippy (Post 1242012)
It is true that every aspect of my build receives this level of scrutiny. I told Peter at ERA this morning that his job isn't easy. But the roll bar decision was an easy one.
That's the fun of building a Cobra, when it's done you will love it...

xb-60 04-29-2013 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by lippy (Post 1242001)
I spoke with a few different carpet suppliers. They mostly agreed that black Wilton is likely to fade in the sun, and velour may be a good upgrade from standard nylon. Fading shouldn't be a problem with the velour.

The cost for velour is $99/yard (60" wide), the cost of the Wilton III is $105/yard (42" wide), and nylon is typically about $50/yard (width varies). I ordered samples.

Do you think velour would look out of place on this type of car?
As a comparison, how much per yard is the good quality nylon from ERA?
Cheers,
Glen

RodKnock 04-29-2013 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lippy (Post 1242001)
They mostly agreed that black Wilton is likely to fade in the sun, and velour may be a good upgrade from standard nylon. Fading shouldn't be a problem with the velour.
Trust me. They will ALL fade in the sun eventually. The better question is how often will you drive and leave the car in the sun over the next decade or two?

Just my personal opinion, but it comes from someone who over-thinks every decision, I think you're over-thinking this decision. :)

Both Wilton wool and nylon will look great in your car and will last approximately the same amount of time. You'll probably sell the car long before fading ever becomes an issue. The question is. Do you want to spend $1,000 or whatever.

Dimis 04-29-2013 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lippy (Post 1242001)

Do you think velour would look out of place on this type of car?
Umm... Yes.

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Originally Posted by Bernica (Post 1242016)
Waiting for the solid vs hydraulic cam debate next!:3DSMILE:
I thought we had this already. I don't recall :o

Lippy FWIW - I enjoy your agonising decision making posts.
Obviously, so do others... Who would have thought 5 pages on wool vs nylon.

Ps.
My vote is nylon.
Wool smells when wet & isn't twice as good/nice considering its over twice the price. Further, I'll bet most wont beable discern the difference. :cool:

lippy 04-29-2013 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1242074)
Trust me. They will ALL fade in the sun eventually. The better question is how often will you drive and leave the car in the sun over the next decade or two?

Just my personal opinion, but it comes from someone who over-thinks every decision, I think you're over-thinking this decision. :)

Both Wilton wool and nylon will look great in your car and will last approximately the same amount of time. You'll probably sell the car long before fading ever becomes an issue. The question is. Do you want to spend $1,000 or whatever.
Yes, they all will fade - eventually. I have a '62 Vette with nylon/black that I replaced 10 years ago, and it hasn't visibly faded yet. Two guys that sell these carpets each told me that, for my use (drive it to work 2-3x per month and park it in the NoCal sun, plus weekend driving), they wouldn't recommend black Wilton because they think it will begin to fade soon. They each recommended velour as a higher-quality alternative to nylon. I'd like to go with the Wilton but if it will be green in five years it's not worth it.

*Of course* I/we are over analyzing this decision. That is what I thought this forum is for, and why I don't even mention these things to my wife. Agonizing over these decisions is sort of fun for me, and I usually end up pretty happy with my choices and not regretting them. I'm going to get the samples and make my decision then. In the meantime, it looks like my car is going to leave ERA tomorrow or Wednesday and I should have it in a week +/-.

DanEC 04-29-2013 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by lippy (Post 1242082)
In the meantime, it looks like my car is going to leave ERA tomorrow or Wednesday and I should have it in a week +/-.
That's exciting Lippy. I will be looking forward to mucho pictures of the event. :)

Dan

LMH 04-29-2013 10:03 PM
Yeah, that's cool it's about to be shipped! I remember waiting for the truck to arrive. It was agony!
Larry

tkb289 04-29-2013 11:01 PM
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Agonizing over these decisions is sort of fun for me, and I usually end up pretty happy with my choices and not regretting them. I'm going to get the samples and make my decision then. In the meantime, it looks like my car is going to leave ERA tomorrow or Wednesday and I should have it in a week +/-.

lippy,

Going over each and every detail is half the fun, along with getting comments and suggestions from the peanut gallery. I went through the same thing when deciding how to set up my ERA, I started a thread or two to ask questions … just ask RodKnock !! ;)

After a while it's less about the dollars and more about getting it as close to the way YOU like it. Chances are you will probably only do this once. My goal was to have as short a 'do over' list as possible, and with the kind of attention to detail that you are putting into your build, I bet your 'do over' list will be short by the time you are done.

Congrats on the upcoming shipment … keep us posted, it's going to be a great build … and don't forget the PICTURES :):)

RodKnock 04-30-2013 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tkb289 (Post 1242116)
Going over each and every detail is half the fun, along with getting comments and suggestions from the peanut gallery. I went through the same thing when deciding how to set up my ERA, I started a thread or two to ask questions … just ask RodKnock !! ;)
Yep, those were the good ole days when Tim couldn't decide on which roll bar setup (he went with both) and what shade of blue to paint his car. :p


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