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Tutosnake 05-22-2013 08:59 PM

Avon tires... why did everybody keep it a secret (just kidding)?
 
Holy Space Balls! I just drove my car with new Avons (and FIA wheels) on, and the difference from BB's is absolutely ridiculous. It is a night/day experience.
Of course, my tittle is facetious. More than one guy here has written about how much difference lays on Avons (for the better) and it is so true. Better handling, less noise, less rock chipping going on, you name it.

http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/...ps89d33b84.jpg

I do not see me going back any time soon...

Hector

mickmate 05-23-2013 04:50 AM

Hey Hector, glad you like them. You're talking a modern radial tire with compounds to match and comparing it to a bias ply old mold race tire. You could always put an AVON or GOODYEAR big letter stencil to them? They look great as is and you already know how they work. Make sure you have a good alignment in the car either way. The soft compound grips and rides nice but don't plan on it lasting like a multi mile radial.

FatBoy 05-23-2013 06:42 AM

They look great. What size are they?

Paul

Tutosnake 05-23-2013 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatBoy (Post 1245277)
They look great. What size are they?

Paul

Thank you, Paul.

They are 245/60-15V (front) and 295/50-15V (rear).

Cheers!

Hector

Tutosnake 05-23-2013 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1245263)
Hey Hector, glad you like them. You're talking a modern radial tire with compounds to match and comparing it to a bias ply old mold race tire. You could always put an AVON or GOODYEAR big letter stencil to them? They look great as is and you already know how they work. Make sure you have a good alignment in the car either way. The soft compound grips and rides nice but don't plan on it lasting like a multi mile radial.

Thanks, ol' Nick. They work great. I appreciate all your help. I do have the stencils, but I am enjoying the black wall a lot, so I don't know that i will use them just yet.

Noticed I got rid of the wind wings and visors? I like that look so much better. I have some screws (mm) coming, but until then, you can see the original screws sticking out a bit... it really doesnt bother me that much, but I dont want my children to get caught on them, etc...

Cheers, mate, and again, thanks for all the help.

Hector

bwcobra15 05-23-2013 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tutosnake (Post 1245212)
Holy Space Balls! I just drove my car with new Avons (and FIA wheels) on, and the difference from BB's is absolutely ridiculous. It is a night/day experience.
Of course, my tittle is facetious. More than one guy here has written about how much difference lays on Avons (for the better) and it is so true. Better handling, less noise, less rock chipping going on, you name it.

I do not see me going back any time soon...

Hector

....and you went WITHOUT me?! :CRY:

see you next week.

FatBoy 05-23-2013 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tutosnake (Post 1245279)
Thank you, Paul.

They are 245/60-15V (front) and 295/50-15V (rear).

Cheers!

Hector

Thank you. They're the sizes I'm considering for my Kirkham. I have GY Billboards on it at the moment and they look the business, but they tramline badly, which does impact on the enjoyment, especially if "she who must be obeyed" is with me because she is constantly twitching and flinching as the car moves around. :o

Paul

Tutosnake 05-23-2013 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatBoy (Post 1245289)
Thank you. They're the sizes I'm considering for my Kirkham. I have GY Billboards on it at the moment and they look the business, but they tramline badly, which does impact on the enjoyment, especially if "she who must be obeyed" is with me because she is constantly twitching and flinching as the car moves around. :o

Paul

Ditto...:D

Mark IV 05-23-2013 09:30 AM

While not inexpensive, the Avons are worth every penny. You get what you pay for.....that is why the BFG T/As are cheaper!

Cobra Pack 05-23-2013 09:45 AM

I have to agree on the avons. I really like the gold on your FIAs. Did you paint or powder coat them?

601HP 05-23-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatBoy (Post 1245289)
Thank you. They're the sizes I'm considering for my Kirkham. I have GY Billboards on it at the moment and they look the business, but they tramline badly, which does impact on the enjoyment, especially if "she who must be obeyed" is with me because she is constantly twitching and flinching as the car moves around. :o

Paul

Paul,
Back in about 2001 I put the first set of GY BB's on my car. The wandering and darting sometimes made Peggy and I look like a couple of bobble heads.:eek: I was kinda embarrassed by the handling when she was with me.

In the beginning I started with tire pressure in the 22-24 pound range on the street. After a few months I experimented with gradually raising the pressure until I found my comfort point. For street driving I have them at 32 psi front, 30 psi rear. What a difference in handling! I didn't see any irregular tread wear in about 5,000 miles.

I am on my second set of GY BB's. By year 5 of ownership of the first set, there was very obvious sidewall cracking, and people were finger pointing. The tread depth was still very good, but I had to toss them because of the sidewall issue.

This second set isn't a year old yet and the first signs of the cracking are just barely becoming noticeable. When its time to toss these, I'll buy the Avons.

David

Trevor Legate 05-23-2013 01:29 PM

Avons offer huge amounts of grip and a great ride - just don't expect them to last too far north of 4000 miles. It's the soft tyre/huge grip trade-off. But if they keep your pride and joy on the black stuff, they're worth every penny.

FatBoy 05-23-2013 01:50 PM

The GY BBs grip brilliantly and they're never going to throw you at the scenery, but they are hard work on anything less than billiard table smooth roads. Once you have the confidence in them, you can pretty much let them find their own course within reason, but they don't inspire confidence on poor surfaces.

I'm going with the Avons next time.

Paul

Tutosnake 05-23-2013 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra Pack (Post 1245314)
I have to agree on the avons. I really like the gold on your FIAs. Did you paint or powder coat them?

Painted them. Now that I know I like them so much, next time around (because paint will chip/wear off) I will powder coat them.

Thanks'

Hector

csx4017 05-24-2013 08:36 AM

When is Goodyear going to come into todays drivers world and market a RADIAL BILLBOARD.. Why any serious driver would put a Bias ply tire on a kick ass Cobra is a mystery to me..........Lets hear what this starts....

FatBoy 05-24-2013 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csx4017 (Post 1245513)
When is Goodyear going to come into todays drivers world and market a RADIAL BILLBOARD.. Why any serious driver would put a Bias ply tire on a kick ass Cobra is a mystery to me..........Lets hear what this starts....

"Serious driver......Bias ply...."?

Does that then mean that all the F1 drivers aren't "serious" drivers? :confused:

The GY Billboards are race tyres, so it isn't fair or reasonable to criticise them for not making them in radials IMO.

Paul

Tutosnake 05-26-2013 02:49 PM

After much thought, I decided to go minimalistic on the Avons, instead of the big, in-your-face style of the BB's:

R Front
http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/...psd54dbd59.jpg

R Rear
http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/...pse174bb34.jpg

L Front
http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/...ps51faeb0d.jpg

L Rear
http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/...psd84729df.jpg

I tried a dark blue, a white, and the yellow. Yellow won. I'm pretty happy.
http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6985a6e4.jpg

Cheers!

fordracing65 05-26-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csx4017 (Post 1245513)
When is Goodyear going to come into todays drivers world and market a RADIAL BILLBOARD.. Why any serious driver would put a Bias ply tire on a kick ass Cobra is a mystery to me..........Lets hear what this starts....

Why would anyone put a BFG tire on there Cobra is more of a question or any other radial in a 15 inch size besides an Avon...:JEKYLHYDE

awfink55 05-26-2013 04:30 PM

Replacing BillBoards
 
Sorry to all the Purists out there. I replaced the dryrot, cracking GY BillBoards with the BFG T/A's. Glad I did. The ride and stability is 100% better and more confortable to drive. As much as I love the look of the BB's, I can't help but appreciated my Cobra more, now with the new radials. Just My Two Cents.........Art

fordracing65 05-26-2013 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awfink55 (Post 1245792)
Sorry to all the Purists out there. I replaced the dryrot, cracking GY BillBoards with the BFG T/A's. Glad I did. The ride and stability is 100% better and more confortable to drive. As much as I love the look of the BB's, I can't help but appreciated my Cobra more, now with the new radials. Just My Two Cents.........Art

I'm not a purist, there is absolutely no performance with the BFG, they are down right dangerous tires for a powerful car...at least the GYB have some grip...


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