| crashlanding |
08-09-2013 07:51 AM |
XKE rear calipers to Wilwood??
Can anyone give me a parts list to swap the rear XKE calipers to wildwood? ERA 193
I have been looking around the blogs but cant seem to find or "understand" an exact wildwood parts needed.
Thanks!!!
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| redmt |
08-09-2013 08:18 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by crashlanding
(Post 1256674)
Can anyone give me a parts list to swap the rear XKE calipers to wildwood? ERA 193
I have been looking around the blogs but cant seem to find or "understand" an exact wildwood parts needed.
Thanks!!!
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I'm guessing you mean the inboard brakes? I'd be interested in that info also. I talked to Wilwood a while back and they were less than helpful. |
| DanEC |
08-09-2013 09:27 AM |
If no one responds before hand I have some info at home that I filed on an upgrade for in-board Jag brakes from a couple of years ago. From memory it included wider, vented rotors and I believe a different caliper. I don't recall if it was Wildwood components however.
I suspect ERAChas may some info on rear Jag brake upgrades.
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| Silversmith |
08-09-2013 10:46 AM |
You might also check with mickmate. If I remember, he a good upgrade for the ERA IRS.
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| ERA Chas |
08-09-2013 11:41 AM |
Crash,
You have an early ERA and you state 'XKE calipers' so that's the inboard set-up, not the newer ERA rear.
First off, if there is a Wilwood application and parts for that app, Bob at ERA would know and help you so call him first.
I doubt there is as the fuel tank location makes Wilwoods problematic. Rotors and brackets from Wilwood would put the caliper against the tank. The Girlings are mounted at the leading edge of the calipers so ERA put the tank where they did.
Mike Bontoft who has closed his business (Concours West Industries) created a ventilated rotor and a bridge for my caliper halves which was very effective and fit the stock location. He last posted here about a year ago.
He has machined a set of rotors for the current owner of my car as spares.
Do a search by threads / post for him here and you may get his last contact info.
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| patrickt |
08-09-2013 12:47 PM |
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In our standard Jaguar based suspension, there was one problem: the Jaguar inboard brakes sometimes overheated under track conditions. (We did offer some optional brakes to cure the problem, but they were pretty pricy.)
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Source: Front view of rear suspension.
I remembered that Bob had used a variant of the word "pricey" on that page and wondered whether he had really just misspelled it.:LOL: |
| joyridin' |
08-09-2013 01:15 PM |
I do not have Wilwood calipers, but I have converted my early Jag to vented 11.375" x .944" vented rotors. Not an easy task, but doable. Chas sent me pics and I copied.
What you probably want to do it work with Mickmate and put Wilwood vented rotors on the car with Wilwood calipers. It is very doable. You need a rotor adapter he can easily make and the Wilwood bracket he probably already makes. The catch is the e-brake. You will have none so you might have to put a line lock of some sort. You can put 11" disks without any problem. Bigger than about 11.5" diameter and you might have a few minor problems.
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| ERA Chas |
08-09-2013 01:33 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by joyridin'
(Post 1256708)
What you probably want to do it work with Mickmate and put Wilwood vented rotors on the car with Wilwood calipers. It is very doable.
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If it puts the calipers against the ERA tank, pad changes and bleeding will be problematic. |
| joyridin' |
08-09-2013 01:43 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
(Post 1256710)
If it puts the calipers against the ERA tank, pad changes and bleeding will be problematic.
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I do not have an ERA. I have plenty of room. Pads might be a small issue, but then again, at the amount of miles I drive, we are looking at 10-15 years before I have to worry about it. I will probably have to replace them from rot before wear...:LOL:
I have all the parts to convert to outboard brakes. Just trying to figure out a U-joint. We will see what kind of weight issues I have. Between the T56 and the brakes, it dumped a lot on the rear of the car now. |
| ERA Chas |
08-09-2013 02:12 PM |
^^^I remember-I posted that for the OP's benefit.
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| crashlanding |
08-09-2013 02:31 PM |
I talked to Greg at ERA, what a cool group of guys. I believe I am going to rebuild the calipers that I have or have a more competent person do it. Took the seats out and carpet and decided to get seats and carpet redone. Greg is sending me a master cylinder upgrade. If any of you all might think of some good things for me to replace while I have the car down and apart, it seems to be a good time to do so now. Have a good weekend And thanks everybody!
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| crashlanding |
08-09-2013 02:33 PM |
For some reason the bottom brake pads are gone..I'm guessing heat related?
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| ERA Chas |
08-09-2013 03:08 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by crashlanding
(Post 1256716)
Greg is sending me a master cylinder upgrade. If any of you all might think of some good things for me to replace while I have the car down and apart, it seems to be a good time to do so now.
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If you don't do it yourself, be sure to have a competent welder saw off the old VW brake master bracket and weld on the new. It must be positioned exactly as the diagram with the parts. Set the brake bias bar as they describe for the Tilton masters. The stock brake light switch will plug right in IIRC.
If you want work, ditch the old copper radiator and get their aluminum Griffin. You'll lose 16 pounds and gain much better cooling.
And shield the feed line from the reservoir to the clutch master with FireSleeve.
Then for relaxation, replace all of the sheetmetal screws on the car with nut-certs and button-headed allens.... |
| ERA Chas |
08-09-2013 03:10 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by crashlanding
(Post 1256717)
For some reason the bottom brake pads are gone..I'm guessing heat related?
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What do you mean 'bottom brake pads'?? |
| patrickt |
08-09-2013 03:32 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
(Post 1256725)
What do you mean 'bottom brake pads'??
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Does the parking brake use its own set of pads on the rear calipers? |
| ERA Chas |
08-09-2013 03:56 PM |
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Originally Posted by patrickt
(Post 1256727)
Does the parking brake use its own set of pads on the rear calipers?
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Yes, they're above the the calipers on their own lever arms. |
| strictlypersonl |
08-09-2013 04:03 PM |
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| DanEC |
08-09-2013 04:37 PM |
Here is the site for an E-type Rear Rotor Conversion Kit. The price is even a few dollars cheaper than it was 3 years ago.
17-1214 - Vent Rotor Kit E-Type Rear Rotor Conversion
But, someone above mentioned Mickmate may offer a similar upgrade for the rear Jag brakes. I would also check with him and see what he has to offer.
Dan |
| ERA Chas |
08-09-2013 04:50 PM |
That is an outrageous price.
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| joyridin' |
08-09-2013 08:21 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
(Post 1256741)
That is an outrageous price.
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Some of the rotors I looked at for an easy adaption were close to $300 each.
For the price of those rotors, you better have a serious need. I have about $50 in my adapters and another $80 in the rotors. |
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