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Igotta P 10-27-2013 07:22 AM
Trouble with knock off spinners
 
Hi Everyone

New to the Club. Relatively new owner of a Backdraft. Still figuring things out.

I have full polished Halibrands held on by peg drives and spinners. As hard as I try, I can't get the spinners off. Yes, I've used penetrating oil and beat on them with a lead hammer. And yes, I've rolled the car forward/back to pound equally on the spinners. No luck. :CRY:

Does anyone have a trick for this?

mln385 10-27-2013 07:32 AM
Are you hitting them in the right direction? Left side of rim facing it ...hit down.

lippy 10-27-2013 07:34 AM
Sounds like you recently got the car and never had the spinners off before? Any way to find out if they were installed with anti-seize? There are multiple threads on this topic btw.

Igotta P 10-27-2013 07:39 AM
Yes, I've been hitting them in the right direction.

DonC 10-27-2013 08:16 AM
Lots of threads on this, just do a search. Non an uncommon problem with pin drives with new owners. Go through the previous threads. Unfortunately no silver bullet fix out there but a lot of different approaches.
When you finally get them off take everyone's advice and use anti-seize when you put them back on.
DonC

Cashburn 10-27-2013 08:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mln385 (Post 1269452)
Are you hitting them in the right direction? Left side of rim facing it ...hit down.
Down on the front side or back side of the wheel? %/

That said, you likely are the victim of wheels that have never been off by the previous owner. If you are certain you are striking the correct direction than try heat. Heat the ring of the knock off, just keep moving the torch around and get it warm, then hammer time. Not heating to the glowing stage.

Shootnride 10-27-2013 08:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Igotta P (Post 1269454)
Yes, I've been hitting them in the right direction.
Not trying to beat a dead horse, but it is very common with new owners not understanding that the knock-offs don't have the same thread on each side of the car. The left side of the car has right hand threads and the right side of the car has left hand threads. If you already understand that, then just disregard my comment. Also, you may want to look at Craig's Cobras website. He has some info on there about getting off stubborn knock-offs.

Good Luck.

Ted

mike harter 10-27-2013 09:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shootnride (Post 1269461)
Not trying to beat a dead horse, but it is very common with new owners not understanding that the knock-offs don't have the same thread on each side of the car. The left side of the car has right hand threads and the right side of the car has left hand threads. If you already understand that, then just disregard my comment. Also, you may want to look at Craig's Cobras website. He has some info on there about getting off stubborn knock-offs.

Good Luck.

Ted
Get the weight off the wheels and always hit the spinner toward the front of the car

Grubby 10-27-2013 09:59 AM
I wouldn't get the weight off the wheels to hit them. You are then pounding the bearings.

John

Bernica 10-27-2013 10:00 AM
There is a lot of info on this subject here on this site. Just remember they knock tight spinning towards the front of the car and loose towards the back. There is even a YouTube video link somewhere here. Don't forget the anti-seize and safety wire when you put them back on!

DanEC 10-27-2013 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grubby (Post 1269468)
I wouldn't get the weight off the wheels to hit them. You are then pounding the bearings.

John
There are two schools of thought on this. Sitting on the ground the weight of the vehicle is bearing on the chamfer connection between the spinner/wheel which interfers with it loosening - but the energy of the hammer blow is being transferred to the spinner. In the air, the weight of the car is mostly off of the spinner/wheel interface - but a lot of your hammer energy is being absorbed by the suspension.

Personnally, I prefer to loosen/tighten with the wheel on the ground.

I guess you could compromise and jack the car up to slightly unload the wheel but with the wheel still in solid contact with the ground. :confused:

itstock 10-27-2013 10:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mln385 (Post 1269452)
are you hitting them in the right direction? Left side of rim facing it ...hit down.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike harter (Post 1269463)
get the weight off the wheels and always hit the spinner toward the front of the car
Quote:
Originally Posted by bernica (Post 1269469)
just remember they knock tight spinning towards the front of the car and loose towards the back.

:lol:
:cry:

chucks1 10-27-2013 10:49 AM
Maybe it's time for a link to an Olthoff video . . .

Superformance Cobra, Daytona Coupe and GT40 Wheel Care - YouTube

601HP 10-27-2013 11:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chucks1 (Post 1269474)
Maybe it's time for a link to an Olthoff video . . .

Superformance Cobra, Daytona Coupe and GT40 Wheel Care - YouTube
To quote Jamo....."assolutely." :eek:

Unless Backdraft knock-offs are the opposite of mine, some of these posts are gonna confuse the h*** out of the OP.

David

MOTORHEAD 10-27-2013 12:12 PM
I have seen a number of K.O. adapters installed on the wrong side of the car. Look at the threads (if you can see any) very closely to see if they are the proper rotation for the side they are installed on. Remember "tight a$$" tighten toward rear of car when struck above horizontal centerline of axle.

CobraDan 10-27-2013 01:50 PM
Get a breaker bar & this wrench
 
AC Shelby Cobra Ford GT 40 Halibrand Knock Off Spinner Saver Socket Wrench | eBay

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/AC-Shelby-Cob...55g~~60_35.JPG

Rick Parker 10-27-2013 04:10 PM
Judicious application of heat on the knock off with a portable propane torch, dont overdo it.

Igotta P 10-27-2013 06:04 PM
Thanks to all for your suggestions and thanks CobraDan. I wondered if such a tool existed. Fricking expensive though. :eek: Has anyone used one of these?

Widows Son 10-27-2013 06:16 PM
I have one of these:

Sarto Rocheleau - Shelby AC CobraHalibrand type Spinners      If your Halibrand spinner looks like this one, the tool will fit.This tool applies equal force to all 3 ears of the spinner without distorting the spinner.     The tool drops on

PLDRIVE 10-27-2013 09:40 PM
Igotta

What is the weight of your lead hammer?


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